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Zack10 are you ranking on other terms still or is it just this kw?

Good Points, Steven... Also did you build a new Google Sitemap.xml file to submit to Google as well build an .htaccess file for 301 redirects for old no longer URL' s to forward the new pages.

Check your Google Webmaster Tools for any errors, alerts and or 404 pages.

You came to the right place, you will find a ton of very talented marketers within this group. I just checked out your website http://www.butterflycraze.com it looks like you have spent some time working on it.

If you like you can private message me though my account profile and I can get more details on what you are looking to accomplish..

Thx

The question I would ask is "What does your Analytics say?: First Review Like the others said, make sure if you are ranking now for them as well if they are bringing converting traffic... Keep them, if they are not ranking figure out why and maybe look for answers vs. just blowing them out...

GREAT Comments Guys... We all do not really understand where Google is headed but they are cleaning up the directory very aggressively within the last few months. Updates are always going to happen, but without looking at your own data things begin to be cloudy and people make the wrong descision based on thing said in all of these SEO articles around the web.

TEST TEST TEST..

Thx Donnie for the reply, I see your point however for some reason these guys are ranking above others in the same space... It reminds me of the LockSmith Spam but in a different way..

Yes, they are over optimizing but the algo has not done anything about this.. I am a white hat SEO and don't believe in following this technique..

I found a company I posted in the past that did the samething and found it ranks.

http://www.seomoz.org/q/has-anyone-had-experience-with-nsphere-net

I have a competitor that ranks in Google Search for a Top Dollar Keyword in the organic rankings with the normal result, however just below that it shows another result that contains the Local City Name followed by their business name.

In the URL they have domain.com > Local

and below the description data it shows a map for a totally different location as this competitor only has one location...

Once clicking on the link I found that it has everything in the title, description and h1 and body content in footer that talks about the local area but not their product.

and when you click the breadcrumbs you can go back to a directory of all the other cities and states they are targeting with doorway pages with the same layout however the anchor text is cityname+keyword

How are they getting away with this?

Thx Nakul,

the product is for printed products such as banners, so breaking it down via nitch maybe able to narrow down the options for the customer when looking for such things as a wedding banner and we would of course have no duplicate content, titles, etc .....

I now that microsites have been frowned upon by may marketers as well like by many marketers.

One of my ideas is say you have many different products on one website but sometimes it is a bit difficult to really find.

We have built an shopping cart that allows our vendors to build a store and use the cart as their own but running off our servers.

What if you take that and combine it with an affiliate marketing strategy but could control the content for each site.

Let's say we build a site themed for Weddings and only had those products available in the cart for that theme and it catered information about the product for use for Weddings.

Another example would be Baseball: We did the same concept with the shopping cart only having the baseball products on that site.

We would provide the details that this is powered by the main company and is a sister site.

Could this type of idea be beneficial to extend our products for people looking for the product via nitch vs just random?

No link would go back to the main site as it would be it's own site.

I am calling a microsite only because it is like one in combination of an affiliate site but without a tracking code link but a place where the customer can buy directly from without leaving the site.

I just watched the video from Barry Schwartz talking about the new Update to come with the Google Algo.

Video of his Friday Post: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJqSPT2NXdA

I have also started reading on Webmasterworld on this topic:

http://www.webmasterworld.com/google/4429947.htm

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What do you think Google has in the list of changes?

I am looking into building a mobile version for my website, knowing that Google Likes Google should I stick with using their mobile building tool or build something from scratch in Dreamweaver?

How to optimize for Google Mobile?

Thx

This has been an on-going topic all over the web and I agree, realistically there are now real qualified SEO Certifications yet other than PPC and such from the engines. However even with a certification that is no reason to choose one or the other it comes down to the work. What did you do and what can you do? I only point out Bruce Clay's because of the difficulty of the test I have taken others and passed however this was like taking my MCSE test but with a twist, plus you are to uphold the standards Bruce has put forth with his certification .. If any of the certified are caught spamming they will loose their certification as well as many other criteria where as other just give you the cert if you pass WOOPY  I like his morals and love the refresher courses to keep up to date with technology. With any certification, you can be a book worm and pass the test but can you really do the work? That is the question!

Robert, like I said sometimes I enjoy these calls because it helps me know what is out there to help others avoid. As for certifications I think Market Motive is one of the leaders out their currently I prefer my Bruce Clay Cert for many factors, One being Code of Conduct and Code of Ethics. Plus being trained by one of the best in the industry is always a plus with refresher courses.. However it comes down to what we do for our customers in making sure we are doing the best we can do all the time by not taking shortcuts that can harm a company. Certs are great but testimonials of happy clients saying ya such and such has really turned our online business around and we are making $$$ more than we did without the help.

It sounds like you are doing everything you can at this moment to get back to the rankings you once saw.

? Have you set up Google Webmaster Tools Yet?

As for your question about a campaign are you bidding on keywords? And is this where you are seeing the flux? If so I would check your landing page quality score to see what Google Rates that landing page and as well find a way to increase and improve the page for better conversion opportunities.

I also noticed you are not using the FREE Google Analytics tool so you can track this type of information that will give you a better idea of what your visitors are doing and where they came from.

Last you mentioned that this is a new website, and with that you will see traffic flux until a few months goes buy for a permanent position however when I say permanent it is dependent on your freshness of content and quality of all.. You will need links and in time those will come, however first focus on User Experience and then you can really start going after the SEO type factors.

I hope this helps a bit.

This company annzoseo keeps calling to get me to jump on to their SEO package that would guarantee me top rankings on the keywords I currently bid on with Google Adwords.. I really love these kind of calls because it is so much fun to probe and see how they do things.. I did a basic crawl for the site and sure enough they are ranking for specific keywords they mentioned in their phone call. However if you do a deeper search you will find tons of directory links that are like an never ending loop of links from forums and web site testing tools where it places a URL.

The call was dropped after I spoke to a tech and asked more questions about the process of getting links, etc.

When I reviewed some of their customer testimonials from a normal perspective things look great however when you dig a bit deeper you see the problem for the customers.

Example:

/case/first-rate-plumbing-.html

I took to first company listed .. The keyword they brag about is "emergency plumbing services in colorado springs"

however they are not found on the first page anymore yet they claim it on their site at the same notion. The site firstrateplumbing-heating dot com does not even show up now after the recent updates from Google from what I can imagine based on the low quality and number of outbound links.

Their sales team is contacting anyone who is advertising in the Google Adwords Program claiming that you are only getting 20% of all the traffic on the web.. However before they make these comments they should at least look at the website they are calling to see other things that company is already doing well with.

I was blown away from this call, so I dug deeper and found these types of links for their company.

Not only when you search for this company it has poor results however going to the second page I found a great link from

Complaints, Reviews - Fraud SEO company it has a few companies complaining about the service... I am shocked, as an SEO myself to see companies out on the web taking companies hard earned cash and giving them noting in return but a possibility they may be flagged one day for spammy techniques that don't work anymore.

Ok Ok, I feel like I am writing a novel here but I just wanted to get the word out about these types of slick oil SEO firms that pollute the industry and make the rest of us all look bad.

Oh and I forgot they push they are certified by seocertification.org thats cool because All I have to do is pay some money and I am in... NICE

I can keep going on with this site as a perfect example and examine more however, I would be curious on what the Group could dig up on this company..

IT would be a FUN little Project to help protect and educate other company owners not to get their company in a pickle with people like this...Sorry If I pissed anyone off.

Corey, I saw this yesterday and posted it on my Google+ page however I tried your search and it is still this way even today... You would think that Google would have fixed that blooper already.

Great Points webfeatseo,

I went to the website and at first blush I did not see what I expected to see such as scraped content or duplicate content. I did not get too deep but one suggestion would be to review all of your page content and use something like plagium checker as well SEOMOZ tools such as the On-Page Report Card tool also maybe run the SEO Web Crawler to find any possible issues.

I did run a quick scan with Copyscape and it did find your content on other sites but not too bad but it maybe work getting the pro version to check deeper

http://www.copyscape.com/?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nlpca.com%2F

Also I ran a test with Xenu site scan and it found a lot of broken links with 403, 301, 302, 404 Errors.

It also looks like you have a lot of outbound links from this domain.

Other items found:

Broken page-local links (also named 'anchors', 'fragment identifiers'): http://www.nlpca.com/DCweb/Interesting_NLP_Sites.html#null  anchor occurs multiple timeshttp://www.nlpca.com/DCweb/Interesting_NLP_Sites.html#US  not found

Again this is just a quick review I hope this helps....

If they are two entirly different bands and you are not using the same content I would say break it out into it's own so you can develop the reputation for it and you could say sister company of Brand A.

Sub domains are more for stuff like video.domain.com but I have seen more companies break it out.

Now if this is just another service offering I would find a way to include it somewhere in your main domain to reduce confusion.

Excellent Point Casey Kluver,

Building links is not like it used to be, as Casey pointed out SEOMOZ and many other sites depending on the topic can develop a ton of links and they did not even have to chase them or ask for them they just showed up, mainly because of what they do and how well they do it.

No take a car dealership that maybe a bit harder to get links for than say an automotive review site with articles on hot new items for the car or truck. Maybe they have controversial topics about a manufacture and a computer issue causing car accidents.  Or you can even take Politics where someone said something that people did not agree on you may see a huge flux of push on that.

I hate to say it but build good quality content and links will come, when you do build good content then you can push out teasers to others on Facebook, Google+ and such and people will then share those articles with others. Google is looking for natural link patterns so yes if you get to many links from low quality building such as link exchanges and blast blogs with spam or tons of links back in forums and directories those may not help as much as someone really saying hey check this out.

I hope this helps.

I agree, I used to promote a company doing Internet Security and if you do a search for both in Google.

• Internet Security = 243,000,000 other results
• InternetSecurity = 135,000,000 other results

it will say did you mean. You will also see less searches for this... Personally I would break it up, Google will show the result but you will have more luck with that word broken up other words words are fine put together such as halfprice vs half price.

Hope this helps.

Personally I would say that a +1 to an article that is relevant would be more important because it brings attention to that article and we have seen Google now listing +1 pages in the index based on the search query. As well if that friend has others in their Google+ profile if they are logged in and search and see that persons photo they are more likely to click giving a better CTR opp.