Hey Highland :),

Nice to meet you, might of been a funny bug that it didn't display your name the first time.

Have you seen this happen before ? If so could u (or anybody else) plz post 2 serp links displaying the same url but with 2 different page titles?

I was only aware this would happen to meta descriptions (either a piece of matching text is taken or in some cases the dmoz.org description)

thanks in advance

Hello mr anonymous  ,

Thanks for your quick reply, but I'm not completely sure if i'm interpreting what you are saying correctly:

" "woonverzekering" does not appear in the title tag (it's part of that longer word but, given that I don't speak Dutch, I can't tell if it's simply part of the word or related) but it DOES appear in the page copy (in a H1 no less, smart SEO)."

Are you saying 'woonverzekering'  does not appear in the title tag?

But it does <page title="">Woonhuisverzekering? Vergelijk alle soorten woonverzekeringen - Independer.nl</page>

Also in the

Woonverzekering afsluiten?

but that doenst match with the title in the serps 'woonverzekeringen - Independer.nl'

It seems like for some reason Google cuts of the beginning of the full page title tag when you search voor 'woonhuisverzekering'

<page title="">Woonhuisverzekering? Vergelijk alle soorten woonverzekeringen - Independer.nl</page>

&

<page title="">woonverzekeringen </page>- Independer.nl

Hey guys,

Hope everybody is having a good day.

Today i came across something i have never seen in the serps before that i would like to share and getting feedback on.

When i search for 'woonverzekering' on google.nl #1 is:

**Url:          ** www.independer.nl/woonverzekering/intro.aspx
**page titel:  **Woonverzekering - Independer.nl

When i search for 'woonhuisverzekering' on google.nl #1 is:

**Url:  **         www.independer.nl/woonverzekering/intro.aspx
page titel: Woonhuisverzekering? Vergelijk alle soorten woonverzekeringen - Independer.nl

So basically 2 different queries show the same url with 2 different page titles in the serps.

The only 'weird' thing i could find was a nobreakspace in the page title code:

Woonhuisverzekering? Vergelijk alle soorten woonverzekeringen - Independer.nl

I'm i missing something completely obvious here? Is this a commonly used technique.  Is the page title getting chopped up because of   ?

What are they doing to get 2 page title results on 1 url?

Hey Guys,

Finally got an answer i was looking for about 301's and link juice (pagerank) loss.

Matt Cutts posted the following video on Youtube yesterday confirming there is no linkjuice (pagerank) loss from a 301 redirect.

Check out Matt Cutts video and discuss the concequences and tactics here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Filv4pP-1nw

watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Filv4pP-1nw

Hi All,

Mini update here.

Matt Cutts posted a video exactly about this issue on YouTube yesterday.

Basically he says 'PageRank' loss via 301's is a MYTH :D.

In my opinion this sounds like great news to me.

I assume i won't have to change all my external links to a new url just to save +- 10% juice

Video link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Filv4pP-1nw

Hope this info is usefull to you guys ( and gals) :),

Lawrence Shaw

watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Filv4pP-1nw

Hi Takeshi Young,

Very intersting information from pretty much the most credible source.

So if i leave the links as is i'd have a little loss of linkjuice (10/20%), If i want 100% juice to be passed along i would have to change the links targetting url to the new ones.

Does Google get 'upset' if you change existing external links? I can imagine that the 'bots' don't like existing links changing much and could consider it spam tactics.

Hey Dan,

Thanks a lot for sharing your thoughts. I agree with you 100%.

I wonder if there is anyone else who has another opinion or knows of case studies that have tested what we are thinking.

Got a lot of migration ahead of me with quite a bit of linkbuilding on the 'old' url's, so definitely want to do whats best in thiscase

Hope everybody is having a good day:).

I was wondering what happens to the external link juice of a page when you redirect it to a new (and improved) url?

For instance www.example.com/lowvolumesword/highvolumeword/   301 --> www.example.com/highvolumeword/

Will the /highvolumeword/ page lose a lot of  (external) linkjuice?

Is it best to change the external links to the new url manually or leave them as is and let the 301 redirect take care of it?

Is it possible to say that no more than x% of your linkjuice will be passed through via a 301?

I hope im making sense here and am looking forward to your reaction.

Thanks in advance,
Lawrence

when searching for '.org' within SeoMoz i found the following 2 articles that mention .org domains.

http://www.seomoz.org/blog/how-to-choose-the-right-domain-name  http://www.seomoz.org/blog/bing-vs-google-prominence-of-ranking-elements

Any chance you meant one of these?

I don't know why, but im often making dubbel posts. I've editted this dubbel post and removed the dubplicate content hehe

Hi Stuart,

Nice outfit you are wearing in your avatar pic haha ;).

And thanks for your input, i definitely get where you are comming from with brand.com and good content, but we already have a site where we are working on a brand (prizewize.com .nl), but we also want to expand using white labels. This way we increase our visibility in the Serps and have different ways of targetting our audience (have one site more formal than the other etc.).

Also in the Netherlands it seems a lot o EMD's are still doing well. I guess Google updates come arrive here 6 to 18 months later than in the US (which can be a good thing). But to be clear the EMD.org i'm talking about will have sollid unqiue content together with our own webservice (price compare tool).

Other emd's we have rank well and  they get a lot of 'natural links' with exactkeyword.nl (.com/.net/.info/.org). So it's way easier creating theme relaterd links with exact match anchor text's for an EMD than a non emd. One of the major reasons for starting another emd and not a brand.

I havent tried ranking myself with a .org domain before, but i have seen a bunch of them rank well for very competitive queries and  with horrible content :(.

At www.google.nl search for autoverzekeringen (car insurances) and  in the top 2/3 should rank www.autoverzekeringen.org (awefull site)

Another example is (on Google nl)  the querie zorgverzekering (health insurance) and in the top 2/3 should be www.zorgverzekering.org

Hi Luke,

I normally visit SeoMoz by typing in 'se' in my browser, after which it fills in the rest of the url (www.seomoz.org) and i press enter.

I had totally forgotten that its SeoMoz.org haha, what a great example.

Thanks for your thoughts, I hadn't thought about how spammy .info might actually come across. Unfortunately the .com's and .nl's are gone for these keywords.

It's quite a competitive market with a lot of EMD.org .net .com and .info's already taken. I will follow up on your advice and take another close look at still available .com/.nl domains with hyphens in them.

Hi everybody,

I'm having a 'heated' discussion with a collegae about .org domains. Originally .org domains were created for non-profit organizations and it was fairly difficult to get a .org domain ( like .gov and .edu still are). Nowadays it's easy to register a .org domain and i see plenty of commercial .org emd's ranking well.

We are planning on launching a new white label in the Netherlands (.nl) and have several domains in our portfolio that we  can us for this.

• I recommend using an exact match .org domain (.nl and .com are already taken) for the new white label www.exactkeyword.org.

• **My collegae says don't use www.exactkeyword.org, because we aren't a non-profit organizaton and we can't garantuee we won't lose our rankings over the next 3 to 4 years. He would recommend going with the available www.exact-keyword.info. **

Who right and who's wrong and why? Can i garantuee no risk with .org for a commercial organization?

I was of the same opinion untill i started to think of the what the possibilities could be for EMD's etc. Might be a great oppurtunity that won't come by often.