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Hi,

Looks like you might have already figured it out cause it redirect properly?

www.organic7thheaven.com/products/deepcleansing/miraclemud.asp

Redirects to

http://www.7thheavennaturals.com/products/deepcleansing/miraclemud.asp/

HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently => Connection => close Date => Fri, 13 Apr 2012 13:39:22 GMT Server => Microsoft-IIS/6.0 X-Powered-By => ASP.NET X-AspNet-Version => 2.0.50727 Location => http://www.7thheavennaturals.com/products/deepcleansing/miraclemud.asp Cache-Control => private Content-Length => 0

But the code would be (All one line formatting here is bad)

Redirect 301 /products/deepcleansing/miraclemud.asp http://www.7thheavennaturals.com/products/deepcleansing/miraclemud.asp/

If you used the code

Options +FollowSymLinks

RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^(.)yourdomain.com [NC]
RewriteRule ^(.)$ http://yournewdomain.com/$1 [R=301,L]

SInce it appears you have the same directory structure, then technically this is a chain redirect, even though Google says this is "okay" it is preferred to do it page by page.

Shane

Make sure and back up you .htaccess before making any changes...

Options +FollowSymLinks

RewriteEngine On
RewriteRule ^(.*).asp$ $1.php [R=301,L]

Would convert all asp to php

but this would only work if you kept your directory structure the same

Example

Old Structure http://www.somedomain.com/about.asp

New Structure http://www.somedomain.com/about.php

If you did not you will need to do it manually for each page

Redirect 301 /about.asp http://www.somedomain.com/about-Us.php

If there are spaces, be sure to use quotes

Redirect 301 "/about us.asp" http://www.somedomain.com/about-Us.php

There could be other easier ways, but if I read correctly above, this would be my suggestions

And of course as TIm suggests above, the proper SEO process would be manually for each page, redirecting to its proper counterpart (if it is indexed, and has links pointing to it or a User Experience page)

Shane

Of course below is just my opinion... But it seems highly plausible...

Everything we do leaves a footprint, that footprint is analyzed by the algorithm - The algorithm has flags both ways with unnatural links. Either done by you - or against you...

I think this has always been one of Google's biggest challenges,not always necessarily how to penalize site owners and SEO's who are actually using Black hat - but how do you filter that against having black hat done against them algorithmically ?

The reason some claim it work, is I am sure there ARE ways to do it... But as ipositions **excellently ** points out.. This money could be much better spent employing strategies that not only help your search positioning, but your overall brand perception and marketing in general. Opposed to just hurting someone else to make yourself look better (sounds like politics!)

Shane

Hi,

After looking at your site, the redirect of non www ---> www is already implemented?

Did you just make this change recently, cause all URLS in Google still show non www

Just In my opinion this could be the reason for the rank drop, as Google is "Confused" but it should get it right soon (few weeks or so)

Why did you change from non www to www?    are most of you incoming links coming to www version?

Shane

Have you questioned the SEO Company About their practices and how they gain your links?

This could REALLY help us here give you the best possible answer (even though right off the bat, #2 seems like a bad idea, just for the fact you need to see what is going on, so it can be stopped if necessary before other sites are penalized)

The Best Answer is #1 in my opinion

Since the most probable cause for your penalty is content farms and overuse of anchor texts, here is a nice post about a person who went through that

http://www.seomoz.org/blog/unnatural-link-warnings-blog-networks-advice

This is a little old, but it is a WBF on this issue

http://www.seomoz.org/blog/whiteboard-friday-oh-i-got-a-penalty

Here is also a post from Dr. Pete on cutting the bad links strategies

http://www.seomoz.org/blog/6-ways-to-recover-from-bad-links

IMHO

I would personally (since you know it is a penalty cause you were warned) use Dr. Pete's article to help you track down the bad links, attempt to remove them, fix any other issues you may have on your site that are "questionable" and submit a reconsideration letting them know you worked with an SEO firm, and you took matters into your own hands, cleaned them up, and it won't happen again.

And then you wait....

Hope this helps

Shane

Hi,

Just from the Looks of the site you gave as an "example" it looks like a BMR type site...

These are going to be going down hard, as they in most cases serve no purpose other than as a link farm, shrouded in thin badly written content.

These types of schemes used to work very well, but with recent updates I would HIGHLY suggest staying away from this strategy you give of searching on PR and Penalty and expand your search to include other factors such as...

User Experience

Alexa Rank

Is the content currently on the site in question even good?

Does it allow social sharing easily and are there social shares?

Is its backlink portfolio just a bunch of links from Blog comments and other shady looking sites

There is quite a bit more to consider, but just as a suggestion, I would say look further into the quality, other than just how you think a search engine might perceive the site in question

Shane

PS just as a "Real World" scenario, One of My Niche's has LOTS of guys who do this, and they all (March 23rd) lost all rankings for Anchor Texts that employed this strategy, due to it WAS their only strategy...

Sorry, I hate IIS    I use apache

But you may want to contact the poster of the blog, you may be able to hire them for final configuration issues

I also know that  Alan Mosley (is his name here on SEO) is REALLY knowledgeable on IIS, so you may be able to contract him?

You could also place a post on Odesk, with your exact requirements, current issues ect... and place a job for contractors to apply to

Shane

I think there are alot of people who would say it is a waste of time, and just let it work itself out while focusing on your own campaign, as the time you spend could be better allotted to your endeavors, as opposed to getting on the "Report Train"

With that being said... Personally it would depend on what they are doing.....

Hope this helps

w00t!

Hi,

There are MANY issues one could encounter, and sadly to say without being on your network team, and knowledge of your topology it would be a hard guess...

Below is a great resource; and runs through many common pitfalls of Apache Mod_Proxy

http://www.apachetutor.org/admin/reverseproxies

in general though these changes should not take down your root domain, so I think there must be something being missed....

If you use IIS, you may need this 3rd party plugin

http://managedfusion.com/products/url-rewriter/

Create a gateway server that brings together all your companies proprietary web application under one standardized schema through the proxy feature.

Hi,

I am personally not aware of this feature being availabe, but don't work for SEOMOZ so may be wrong As there may be higher levels of Membership with this ability...

You may get a quicker response to this question through;

Help Team

If you have questions about the site and tools, your account, billing, or other issues you might encounter, please email help@seomoz.org

hope this helps

w00t!

Others may have a different opinion;

But as you have described it, I am not sure there is really a good "SEO" answer other than re-write the content...

Reason;

Each duplicated page is probably already not passing rank, due to it is just duplicate content of something that has already been indexed. (I am assuming) Of course this might not be the case, but unless the content is re-written, and of high quality --- These pages are probably doing nothing for the sites (SEO/SEM wise), and the "Link Juice" they are passing is probably negligible (if any).

So to answer your question;

If the clients won't rewrite the content, the pages are probably useless as it pertains to "Link Juice" or SEM strat, so personally, counting on this as an SEO asset to the site is probably a miscalculation.

Since these are all different domains/clients a canonical is probably out of the question as well. I think you are on the right track, but more along the lines of just using for User Experience, not for any SEO/SEM tactic.

Hope this helps

w00t!

Gotchya Kynduvme,

I must have misunderstood that comment, I thought you were stating that it is "Okay" to trick consumers or "Bait and Switch"

But i see now i was mistaken

w00t!

Yeah, I got that, I am still not so sure that everlasting is the correct word or even mentality with the tool you suggested, as it will only "last" for about 3 - 6 months, then it will either get de-indexed or penalized... The fact that it does not have to be paid is a moot point, why would you care if it is everlasting if the benefits are not everlasting?

This is not a 100% statement, but it is even more of a constant, and will continue to be as such with more Panda Style Updates,

So from an SEO perspective, and the "Goal" of SEOMOZ Community, just giving someone a tool that is possibly out of their realm of understanding the consequences, is just not a good practice in my personal opinion.

I am not so sure it completely answers his question.... His question was about "Everlasting" Links, as an SEO the term everlasting and spun content, in content farms does not fully align....

I would also think that he wanted those links to "pass rank" for "eternity

I understand your response may be that even High Quality Content and Blogs are not "Eternal"

But you have a much better chance of longterm success, over a 3 - 6 month gain, unless this is for this purpose, but without knowing more I am afraid to say you did not "answer" his question.

You only gave him an answer that was a possible solution to one aspect of his question if you are getting technical about it

**No I don't mind I think it is funny. I don't believe "Ethics" and "Marketing" belong in the same sentence frankly. **

That is kind of a scary comment not only for Users, but also for your clients in my opinion from MANY!!! angles

So without ethics in Marketing, how are consumers to trust anything?

Personally it is outlooks like this in my opinion that are the "Bad Apple" that spoils the bunch...

Hi,

everlasting is a term that is rarely associated with the type of links it appears you are looking for, as unless you are submitting high quality articles/blogs to sites that are not just content farms, "everlasting" is a term i think you will rarely find.

Personally, I think http://myblogguest.com/ is good, but there is a monthly fee.

Will Critchlow from Distilled did a recent post and talked about different tools they used...

http://www.seomoz.org/blog/link-building-tools

There was a specific tool called http://ontolo.com/ that would satisfy the ability to look for Blogs/site by keyword, niche ect... But this DOES NOT allow the automatic placement of links, you still must build a relationship, and have high quality content.

But onto the actual question, I am not sure there are any tools that are single payment, and would give the benefit of everlasting link that you would actually want (or would give authority) for longterm purposes.

Hi,

Technically yes,

Be sure to back up your .htaccess before trying but this below should remove the trailing slash (by redirecting / to non slash), and fix duplicate if you have it.  But like i said back up first just in case

#remove trailing slashes RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^\.domain\.com$ [NC] RewriteRule ^(.+)/$ http://%{HTTP_HOST}/$1 [R=301,L]

EDIT

Since I am not full aware of your actual situation... Below is if you only want to redirect trailing slash on URI's that are past root (sub directories redirected, but www.example.com/ is left alone

<code>RewriteEngine On
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} (.*)$
RewriteRule ^(.+)/$ http://www.domain.com/$1 [R=301,L]</code>

HeHe I love network and IS teams, something can always "Not Be done"

Where there is a will there is a way, they just did not want to look for it

Hi,

I would have your network team look at reverse proxy..

http://www.seomoz.org/blog/what-is-a-reverse-proxy-and-how-can-it-help-my-seo

This will allow you using either IIS or Apache modules to use a reverse proxy to turn blog.website.com into www.mysite.com/blog/ even if they are hosted on two completely different servers

hope this helps!

w00t!