Scammer or Legit?

[EGOL]

If you are considering the use of his services call him up on the phone and start talking with him about a specific SEO problem or two.  If you do that either his pants will fall or your BS meter will redline.

[DavidKonigsberg]

seems like junk - no real contact form - no contact info -no phone number-no address etc

[SteveOllington]

Haha I like it!!

But no I'm not considering his services, I just feel bad for the fact that other people probably will, and if I'm right they're just going to be scammed.

I see this kind of stuff around loads and it really frustrates me, it's usually a lot worse than this though.

We had a phone call at work once with some guy trying his hardest to sell his SEO services to me... apparently he didn't realise we were an SEO company ourselves, so I kept him on the phone for ages playing dumb and then told him how everything he'd just been telling me was completely wrong afterwards.

His company had a "special relationship" with Google where they could guarantee position one for any term in organic search, and they could even our company to DMOZ for £50!

Some small business that guy called that day would have signed up to their yearly contract and is still paying through the nose for nothing.

[SteveOllington]

Yeah I didn't even spot that. Damn these fools, they make us all look bad!

[AaronSchinke]

That is such a huge problem. Too much of my time is spent fending off these guess that over promise results with no basis. They just take blind shots and hope to pick up some $$$. Makes the entire industry look bad.

[EGOL]

I was just being a wise guy.  

Someone should register the domain... BeforeYouHireAnSEO.com and fill it full of warning content for small business owners.... or even companies like JCP who might outsource their work.

[SteveOllington]

Yeah I was going to make a thread on something like that actually to see what others thought about the creation of a sort of "SEO Company Hall of Shame"

[EGOL]

lol......  I think that you will get your bunns sued of with that one.

[MSSTORAGE]

I think your concerns are well founded. For an SEO guru his site is badly built and optimised.

Personally, i think SEOmoz has all the SEO experts you'll ever need.

[SteveOllington]

That's what I thought originally, but on sites like ripoffreport and blagger.com, among others (btcomplaints.com is good) they simply have a disclaimer, that any of the views expressed and stories reported are that of other peoples and not necessarily shared by the site authors.

Plus, chatting to a lawyer friend of mine before revealed that if something is true, and can be proven as true... it's okay to share your negative experience of it if the point is to warn others

[KeriMorgret]

And Lee Gilbert has a lot in common with John Hine, at least in the way they use some of the same exact phrases on their website. http://martialartsbusinessacademy.com/meet-john-hine-2/ =]

Agreed that it doesn't sound very legit at all, and I don't think you're being too harsh. I found the above when I started taking random phrases from the website and seeing if they were copied elsewhere on the web.

[SteveOllington]

Hehe, well spotted!