The Moz Q&A Forum

    • Forum
    • Questions
    • My Q&A
    • Users
    • Ask the Community

    Welcome to the Q&A Forum

    Browse the forum for helpful insights and fresh discussions about all things SEO.

    1. SEO and Digital Marketing Q&A Forum
    2. Categories
    3. Keyword Research
    4. Internal URLs competing for keyword

    Internal URLs competing for keyword

    Keyword Research
    7 3 561
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as question
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • rasmusbang
      rasmusbang last edited by

      I have an affiliate site where we have reviews of bookmakers, which are optimized for the bookmakers name as a key word. We have seen a drop in rankings and at this point we are out ranked by a lot of pages including our own.

      We also have a community forum and write news and articles about the the bookmakers. The thing is, that these forum threads and articles often out rank our review pages, which are the pages we need people to land on in order to convert.

      This page: http://www.betxpert.com/bookmakere/bet365 is optimized for "bet365" and is at this point outranked by http://www.betxpert.com/artikel/ny-funktion-hos-bet365-afslut-vaeddemaal-foer-tid.

      This page actually links to the review.

      What should i do in order to increase ranks for my pages?

      Make the forum threads and articles crappy for the key word?

      Would it help to add a canonical link to the articles?

      Would it help to remove the meta tag for update time of the review, such that Google does not downrank for not being recent?

      -Rasmus

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • Chris.Menke
        Chris.Menke last edited by

        Rasmus,

        You've got to build the value of the review pages in the eyes of your target audience.  If Google's not ranking them highly enough, it's because Google's not thinking they're important enough.  You have to take a really hard look at those pages as compared to those of the competitors that rank at the top of page one and come to terms with what's helping those pages rank well--it's probably links but could be discussion and engagement socially.

        Today's SEO is less about the words you use on the page and more about how many people are showing that it's useful to them.  When you construct your reviews, you need to keep a laser focus on who the target audience member who will share your content and you have to give them a reason to share yours over the competitors'. It's like concept research, instead of the old fashioned keyword research--you have to conceive of content that has an audience --an audience you can reach out to socially---and which doesn't have so many competitors that you can't get a foothold in the mindshare of your intended audience.

        I say that because to me, your review page appears kind of run-of-the-mill (though I can't read it) and that there might not be much there that gives the audience a reason to chose it over someone else's review.  It's time to beef up the content and then hit the social networks and bloggers to promote it.

        rasmusbang 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 3
        • BlueprintMarketing
          BlueprintMarketing last edited by

          I agree with everything Chris has said it's right on the money.

          "Would it help to remove the meta tag for update time of the review, such that Google does not down rank for not being recent?"

          Absolutely not it will make no difference whatsoever. Like Chris is explained Google is taking signals from many places however they are not going to be influenced or tricked by metadata tags.

          It is possible because of your affiliation with gambling that Google is cracking down on that sort of site. However I could be wrong on that last one.

          Sincerely,

          Thomas

          rasmusbang 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • rasmusbang
            rasmusbang @BlueprintMarketing last edited by

            Well, perhaps it is due to the affiliation with gambling. But, the pages outranking us, are also in affiliation with gambling.

            Will try a little work towards link building and try to internally pass the link juice from the articles to the reviews.

            Thank you for the replies!

            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • rasmusbang
              rasmusbang @Chris.Menke last edited by

              One follow up question.

              A couple of years ago, i removed links to our reviews from our menu because i was afraid it would seem spammy. But as far as i can see, all the pages in our menu have good Page Authority. Would it be a good "trick" to put the bookmaker reviews back in the menu in order to give the pages more of the internal link juice?

              -Rasmus

              Chris.Menke 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • Chris.Menke
                Chris.Menke @rasmusbang last edited by

                Often, a direct link  from the homepage can help the search visibility of the internal page being linked to (and others being linked to from that internal page).  Exact match anchor text in your internal links won't get you penalized like they can in external links but you want to be sure they don't look spammy to visitors.

                rasmusbang 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • rasmusbang
                  rasmusbang @Chris.Menke last edited by

                  The menu is on ALL pages. Is this a problem?

                  I feel that the link is relevant for any new user coming to the site. Will not seem spammy, i think.

                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • 1 / 1
                  • First post
                    Last post
                  • Competing Pages for Ranking Keywords?
                    Advanced-Air-Ambulance
                    Advanced-Air-Ambulance
                    0
                    5
                    54

                  • How to do proper keyword research to content URL-mapping?
                    BlueCorona
                    BlueCorona
                    0
                    2
                    306

                  • Can you ever compete with product keywords?
                    VeroBrain
                    VeroBrain
                    2
                    2
                    72

                  • Any tools to scan URL to identify keyword opportunities
                    DavidBlack
                    DavidBlack
                    0
                    3
                    3.1k

                  • Keyword inside keyword
                    UmarKhan
                    UmarKhan
                    0
                    5
                    101

                  • Any way to track rank of a URL for keyword BEFORE setting up in Rank Tracker?
                    evasmith
                    evasmith
                    0
                    4
                    136

                  • Keywords/URL
                    eqgirl
                    eqgirl
                    0
                    8
                    180

                  • Is there a good way to get the list of keywords that bring the most traffic to a competing website?
                    jgenesto
                    jgenesto
                    0
                    6
                    437

                  Get started with Moz Pro!

                  Unlock the power of advanced SEO tools and data-driven insights.

                  Start my free trial
                  Products
                  • Moz Pro
                  • Moz Local
                  • Moz API
                  • Moz Data
                  • STAT
                  • Product Updates
                  Moz Solutions
                  • SMB Solutions
                  • Agency Solutions
                  • Enterprise Solutions
                  • Digital Marketers
                  Free SEO Tools
                  • Domain Authority Checker
                  • Link Explorer
                  • Keyword Explorer
                  • Competitive Research
                  • Brand Authority Checker
                  • Local Citation Checker
                  • MozBar Extension
                  • MozCast
                  Resources
                  • Blog
                  • SEO Learning Center
                  • Help Hub
                  • Beginner's Guide to SEO
                  • How-to Guides
                  • Moz Academy
                  • API Docs
                  About Moz
                  • About
                  • Team
                  • Careers
                  • Contact
                  Why Moz
                  • Case Studies
                  • Testimonials
                  Get Involved
                  • Become an Affiliate
                  • MozCon
                  • Webinars
                  • Practical Marketer Series
                  • MozPod
                  Connect with us

                  Contact the Help team

                  Join our newsletter
                  Moz logo
                  © 2021 - 2026 SEOMoz, Inc., a Ziff Davis company. All rights reserved. Moz is a registered trademark of SEOMoz, Inc.
                  • Accessibility
                  • Terms of Use
                  • Privacy