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    • HMCOE
      HMCOE last edited by

      Aside from well optimized meta tags, alt tags, captions I could use some help figuring out:

      1. What's the recommended number of words (original of course) on page?
      2. What should be the keyword % ?

      We've recently engaged an SEO company to provide an audit, and hired another for comparison and guess what ... 2 different viewpoints. I consider this to be the worst $3 grand we've ever spent!

      I look forward to your opinions

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      • EGOL
        EGOL last edited by

        What's the recommended number of words (original of course) on page?

        As many as it takes to cover the subject completely and in an interesting manner.

        What should be the keyword % ?

        As many as it takes to tell the story in natural language.

        Anybody who gives you fixed numbers for this is full of BS.

        I consider this to be the worst $3 grand we've ever spent!

        Nah... I bet you are getting an education worth many times that around.   You will make the money back with better decisions down the road.

        Some people sign $30,000 contracts and find out later.

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        • HMCOE
          HMCOE @EGOL last edited by

          I disagree with that.

          Great marketers can tell a story in a natural language in 800 words, but others can do it in 30 with a smart punch line and an image and perhaps an embedded video.

          For example, in my niche, there are super-high-ranked sites with just a title on a wordpress page, a short video and 20 words of content just in the caption (It happens to be a competitor so I'm trying to figure out what the "better" approach would be considering we have everything else at tip top shape)

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          • EGOL
            EGOL @HMCOE last edited by

            **For example, in my niche, there are super-high-ranked sites with just a title on a wordpress page, a short video and 20 words of content just in the caption (It happens to be a competitor so I'm trying to figure out what the "better" approach would be considering we have everything else at tip top shape) **

            I'll bet that if you gave me an identical page and allowed me to edit those 20 words into a more complete story I would rank above them.

            Great marketers can tell a story in a natural language in 800 words, but others can do it in 30 with a smart punch line and an image and perhaps an embedded video.

            There's a difference between marketing and ranking a website.

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            • HMCOE
              HMCOE @HMCOE last edited by

              LOL, and how many words (on average) do You tell your story EGOL? 🙂

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              • EGOL
                EGOL @HMCOE last edited by

                Between 500 and 5000 words, with 2 to 10 images, maybe a video, and maybe some data.

                A few years ago I had a lot of pages with 30 words.  I improved them to 300 and the rankings went up... then improved them to 3000 with media and rankings went up again.

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                • HMCOE
                  HMCOE @HMCOE last edited by

                  Was it a .edu site?

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                  • EGOL
                    EGOL @HMCOE last edited by

                    No, a .com.

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