Looking for services to publish articles or blog posts with everlasting links.
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Hyperbolic or not, it's a service that actually answers the OP's question. I don't believe he asked for a debate about the ethics of spun content or link networks -- he asked where he can drop links without paying a monthly fee. ALN fits the bill.
It's fine to caution against the dangers of such an approach -- and there certainly are some -- but I think it's also important to actually answer the question.
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What about text-link-ads, payperpost and linkworth?
Rewrites are quite common practice for SEO oO. I'm not sure about stuffing directories, in Russia our local search engine a bit more sophisticated than Google and it reacts not really well to such thing, and i would prefer cleaner methods.
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I'm no fan of spun content and I don't think blog networks should be nearly as effective as they are at manipulating rankings... but I'm also not going to pretend that stuff I dislike doesn't work.
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No I don't mind I think it is funny. I don't believe "Ethics" and "Marketing" belong in the same sentence frankly.
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**No I don't mind I think it is funny. I don't believe "Ethics" and "Marketing" belong in the same sentence frankly. **
That is kind of a scary comment not only for Users, but also for your clients in my opinion from MANY!!! angles
So without ethics in Marketing, how are consumers to trust anything?
Personally it is outlooks like this in my opinion that are the "Bad Apple" that spoils the bunch...
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I am really disappointed that I can only give one thumbs up point to Robert's post.
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My advise is not going with any service to select blogs and also to build links.
Most of the providers have thousands of own blogs/domain or some relationship with such sites.
Instead try to engage full time or part time professionals who could follow ethics in selection. Result may take time but there won't be any risk.
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I am not so sure it completely answers his question.... His question was about "Everlasting" Links, as an SEO the term everlasting and spun content, in content farms does not fully align....
I would also think that he wanted those links to "pass rank" for "eternity
I understand your response may be that even High Quality Content and Blogs are not "Eternal"
But you have a much better chance of longterm success, over a 3 - 6 month gain, unless this is for this purpose, but without knowing more I am afraid to say you did not "answer" his question.
You only gave him an answer that was a possible solution to one aspect of his question if you are getting technical about it
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NO you don't understand what I meant by that. I don't consider myself really in marketing. I do SEO which is like a branch of marketing, but when I say there is no ethics in marketing, I am really talking about the in your face television ads and promises made to sell things by and large. Think of the whole ORGANIC cabal in marketing.
Obviously I am "ethical" in my SEO practices otherwise I would not have been successful for over 10 years. There is no longevity in the dark side of SEO period. sorry for the confusion.
A smart consumer is a skeptical one. I never make promises to my clients, I am always 100% honest about what SEO is and what the potential is for success and the possibility of failure. SEO's who guarantee anything more than doing their best and relying on a proven track record is lying to you or buying PPC.
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Shane,
Everlasting links means it's placed once and it stays without need for ongoing payment. The tools I noted absolutely fit that requirement.
Further, noting that a tool accepts spun content doesn't require him to create spun content. You can push unique content through AMR and ALN -- it's all about how you use the tools.
I do agree with you 100% that guest posting is a great approach to this question as well, though it's definitely slower as it requires 1:1 communication.
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Yeah, I got that, I am still not so sure that everlasting is the correct word or even mentality with the tool you suggested, as it will only "last" for about 3 - 6 months, then it will either get de-indexed or penalized... The fact that it does not have to be paid is a moot point, why would you care if it is everlasting if the benefits are not everlasting?
This is not a 100% statement, but it is even more of a constant, and will continue to be as such with more Panda Style Updates,
So from an SEO perspective, and the "Goal" of SEOMOZ Community, just giving someone a tool that is possibly out of their realm of understanding the consequences, is just not a good practice in my personal opinion.
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Gotchya Kynduvme,
I must have misunderstood that comment, I thought you were stating that it is "Okay" to trick consumers or "Bait and Switch"
But i see now i was mistaken
w00t!
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I guess that's the difference between search engines. Our local search engine Yandex counts old articles properly even years after they published, and yet bans poor content much faster then Google.
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Eppie, I think it is totally reasonable to acknowledge that it is there and that it works. Frankly, If you look at Wil's post re Google Making Liars Out of All of US, that clarifies a ton. Anchor text manipulation is king, that is a fact.
My point was that I don't like it. It is that simple. I was against and still am against SOPA and its iterations; however, when I see quality content turned to trash and someone claiming they produced an article, page, etc. I do see the harm done by it. So, that said, if someone wants to spin I cannot stop them. If they want to be involved in paid linking, link exchanges, link wheels, etc that is their choice. I do not have to stand by and allow it to be passed off as if hey, go ahead, everyone does it. No harm, no foul.
I simply am voicing my opinion of the effects of it on everyone. Remember most who are involved in SEO are seen as common street scum because we allow this stuff to go on and we can say either everyone does it or Google doesn't stop it. I challenge anyone to show me where even half the population has a positive opinion of those in SEO.
So ask yourself, why is that?Best to You, I fully realize you were not condoning it per se.
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We don't generally condone paid links here on SEOmoz, because we feel the risks often outweigh the rewards. However, Eppie fairly notes that they do (too often) work. The problem is that, even putting ethics aside, most people just don't do it very well.
I actually think Shane makes a good point - some of these links aren't really "everlasting" in the full sense of the word. Article marketing and paid blog posts often get archived quickly, and while the links continue to exist, they get rapidly devalued simply by moving in the internal structure. These paid networks have to continue to sell new links, and selling new links often means archiving old links and diluting existing content. So, if you pay once, expect your link to be treated like a 2nd-class citizen down the road. That's just the nature of that business, IMO. With a monthly fee, they can at least afford to keep your link active.
There are "paid" options that Google tends to not view as critically, such as:
(1) Editorially-reviewed directories
(2) Sponsorships and membership organizations
(3) Paid press-release services (although not really "everlasting")
People tend to only think of the big ones for (1) and (2) and often overlook niche directories, smaller organizations, local organizations, etc. The nice thing about the smaller sites is that you may be one of a half-dozen paid listings/sponsors, as opposed to one of 10,000 articles in an article-marketing network.
I'll leave this open as a discussion in case others have constructive suggestions.
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What about a once a year fee?
Local neighborhood associations
Local Art Associations
http://www.proartsgallery.org/
Local small business affiliats
Local Chaimber of Commerce
http://www.oaklandchamber.com/
Local new outlets (these guys have a monthly, but I'm sure you can get a yearly rate)
Look in your area for these type of organisations to join up, they get you links, service, community enrichment & maybe even a few clients. Not all of these will fit every solution but they do range in value as well as price from 25.00/year to 200+/year.
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