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Hi Agsin,

You can make rank the domains with multiple dashes. But usually domains with more dash looks spammy to users. So they may not click on your website even if it ranked on page 1

Riyas

Thanks Aleyda, I read your article it was very informative and my confusion has been sorted out

Dear Mozers,

We are creating a mobile version for a real estate website. We are planning to dynamically serve different HTML on same URL.

I'm a little confused about the on-page optimization for the mobile version. The desktop version pages has lot of text content and I strongly believe that made us ranking for various keywords. Now if I'm creating this mobile version do I need to serve all the same exact text content on the mobile version too?

I found zillow.com using the same method, their desktop version has lot of text content and mobile version is clean without any text. Does this affect the sites SEO anyway?

Please help, share your thoughts.

• RIyas

OK Gary. Thanks

Dear Mozers,

We have a Drupal site with more than 200K indexed URLs. Before 6 months a bad website migration happened without proper SEO guidelines. All the high authority URLs got rewritten by the client. Most of them are kept 404 and 302, for last 6 months.

Due to this site traffic dropped more than 80%. I found today that around 40K old URLs with good PR and authority are de-indexed from Google (Most of them are 404 and 302).

I need to pass all the value from old URLs to new URLs.

Example URL Structure
Before Migration (Old)
_http://www.domain.com/2536987_
(Page Authority: 65, HTTP Status:404, De-indexed from Google)

After Migration (Current)
_http://www.domain.com/new-indexed-and-live-url-version_

Does creating mass 301 redirects helps here without re-indexing the old URLS? Please share your thoughts.

• Riyas

Hi Keri, here I given moz.com just for an example. I just meant any trusted website

White hat tiered link building is a great strategy but what if someone mixes both white hat and black hat tiered link building together?

For example

1. moz.com/my-guest-post ---[Linking To]--> mywebsite.com
2. 10 Domains _**---[Linking To]--> **_moz.com/my-guest-post
3. 10,000 Domains _**---[Linking To]--> **_10 Domains
4. etc..

SEO duplicate issues with your current website (with 12 versions of each URL) are

1. For each URL on the website, there are 3 other exact duplicate pages available on the web (You partially fixed it with rel="canonical")

2. There is 8 other regional duplicate version, each one will create duplicate issues with the first URL I mentioned

3. Your link popularity is diluted  through so many domains

It will be much better if you can make it to any one version. Either a domain version or a sub-directory version

What's exactly in my mind

Since you own a dot.com domain I suggest you to use starshiners.com as your base English version and create sub-directory versions for all other languages.

English Version: starshiners.com (Or you can even 301 entire starshiners.com to starshiners.com/en)

Romanian Version: starshiners.com/ro

Hungarian Version: starshiners.com/hu

Now 301 All Other Domains

301 Redirect starshiners.CO.UK visitors to starshiners.COM

301 Redirect starshiners.RO visitors to starshiners.COM/ro

301 Redirect starshiners.HU visitors to starshiners.COM/hu

At this stage I guess the only SEO duplicate issue on the site will be each URL creating duplicate with 2 other language versions

Here you can easily fix that using the benefit of rel="alternate" hreflang (refer bellow links)

http://support.google.com/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2620865
http://support.google.com/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=189077 https://sites.google.com/site/tomihasa/google-language-codes

What you think?

Hi Daniel

I think its pretty simple

Check this screenshot from OSE http://j.mp/VSRr9h

Hi Lucian Sava

I was just gone through you website and found that your website is using 3 domains for different languages (English, Hungarian & Romanian) and each domain is also hosting another duplicate sub-directory version of other languages

So, These are the 3 domains

English: http://starshiners.co.uk (Having another 2 versions)

Romanian: http://starshiners.ro (Having another 2 versions)

Hungarian: http://starshiners.hu (Having another 2 versions)

I'm giving a short name for each versions bellow

Domain .CO.UK

1. A-EN http://starshiners.co.uk (Original)

2. A-HU http://starshiners.co.uk/hu/

3. A-RO http://starshiners.co.uk/ro/

Domain .RO

4. B-EN http://starshiners.ro/en/

5. B-HU http://starshiners.ro/hu

6. B-RO http://starshiners.ro (Original)

Domain .HU

7. C-EN http://starshiners.hu/en/

8. C-HU http://starshiners.hu (Original)

9. C-RO http://starshiners.hu/ro/

Now just taking English website as an example (CO.UK)

A-EN rel=canonical to A-EN (Itself)

A-HU rel=canonical to C-HU

A-RO rel=canonical  to B-RO

In this case I guess Roger will consider A-HU & A-RO as the duplicate of A-EN (Which is rel=canonical  to itself and all others are rel=canonical  to external)

The situation will be same for other two domains (.RO &.HU)

It will look something like this

Original Page:  http://starshiners.ro/accesorii/cercei-spelbound-turquoise

Duplicate Page:  UR http://starshiners.ro/en/accesories/spelbound-turquoise-earrings

Duplicate Page:  http://starshiners.ro/hu/kiegeszitok/turkiz-spelbound-fulbevalo

How to fix this? (My suggestion)

How about removing the sub-directory versions from all individual domains (I guess you prefer different domains for different versions)

For English make this domain (http://starshiners.co.uk) as default version
For Hungarian this, http://starshiners.hu For Romanian this, http://starshiners.ro

and link each other for different version

Also in order to avoid duplicate issues within versions use proper rel="alternate" hreflang="x"

Above are just my thoughts regarding this issue, do wait for others suggestions too

riyas

Yep! https://adwords.google.com/o/KeywordTool

Hi Bernard

Don't worry. I guess since August 2012 Moz has some access issues to Google Adwords API. Hope the team is building a better replacement for this.

Read this for more info http://www.seomoz.org/q/loss-of-google-adwords-api 

Hi Daniel

This is first time I'm thinking a SEO situation like this. Thanks for the question

My Suggestion

What  about creating a common page for all version on the core website.

For example consider www.example.com as your core website.

Create a page  called www.example.com/all-version , some thing like wikipedia main page ( http://www.wikipedia.org )

From each ccTLD Change Language option will take the user to the above all version page

Just a suggestion, consider others feedback too

No. We are just telling the search engine that the German version of the website (www.example.com) is located at www.example.com/de/

So all the pages/folders originating from that directory become the part of this process. (www.example.com/de/2ndpage OR www.example.com/de/another-page.html )

Create all the language lines in a single XML file. Don't create multiple XML files for this. And follow the same instructions mentioned in the above Google link

Hi James

Hope you are planing to target users for different languages or countries. You can achieve this by adding rel="alternate" hreflang="x" annotations in sitemap

Using rel="alternate" hreflang="x"

Using rel="alternate" hreflang="x" anotations in sitemap to tell Google that there is different versions of same website exist on the web. Otherwise Google will consider it as duplicate content  and block it from SERP

Example Steps

• For your German version of your website create a sub-folder like www.example.com/de/

_- Now you need to create a XML sitemap for this and you can name it as _languages.xml

_- Upload the sitemap and tell Google where it is located _through Google Web Master Tools

Useful links for this process

http://support.google.com/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=189077

http://support.google.com/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2620865

Google Search Language Codes

Hope this will help you

It will take 1 week - 4 week to recover the value from 301'ed URLs

I remember when Rand Fishkin 301ed his old domain to http://moz.com/rand/ it took 7+ days for him to recover

See Rands tweets regarding this

https://twitter.com/randfish/status/243834935478210560

https://twitter.com/SEOChampion/status/244537514570960896

It depends on the number of keywords you need to focus on the title. From your above listed titles the first one looks user friendly.

Another suggestion is

Brand Name - Lake Tahoe Ski and Snowboard Rental