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have decided that I'm just gonna try and see how it reacts, will report back when I have the conclusion.

Just thought of a possible solution.

On the mobile site I guess I could do something like:

And on the normal site:

Does anyone have any experience in using meta data to command the google-mobile-bot?

Hi everyone

I seriously hope you can come up with an idea to a solution for the problem below, cause I am kinda stuck

Situation: A client of mine has a webshop located on a hosted server. The shop is made in a closed CMS, meaning that I have very limited options for changing the code. Limited access to pagehead and can within the CMS only use JavaScript and HTML. The only place I have access to a server-side language is in the root where a Defualt.asp file redirects the visitor to a specific folder where the webshop is located.

The webshop have 2 "languages"/store views. One for normal browsers and google-bot and one for mobile browsers and google-mobile-bot.In the default.asp (asp classic).

I do a test for user agent and redirect the user to one domain or the mobile, sub-domain. All good right? unfortunately not. Now we arrive at the core of the problem.

Since the mobile shop was added on a later date, Google already had most of the pages from the shop in it's index. and apparently uses them as entrance pages to crawl the site with the mobile bot. Hence it never sees the default.asp (or outright ignores it).. and this causes as you might have guessed a huge pile of "Dub-content"

Normally you would just place some user-agent detection in the page head and either throw Google a 301 or a rel-canon. But since I only have access to JavaScript and html in the page head, this cannot be done.

I'm kinda running out of options quickly, so if anyone has an idea as to how the BEEP! I get Google to index the right domains for the right devices, please feel free to comment.

Any and all ideas are more then welcome.

I completely agree on every point (as I tried to explain above) and I could not myself come up with a better solution, but thought I might give you guys a chance before jumping the rel-canon band wagon

To be honest I didn't expect any amazing ideas but one could hope that I hadn't thought about everything, unfortunately it seems I had.

thx for your time everyone

Hi and thx for your reply.

I agree with you, as I tried to explain in my post. But this doesn't really help me with the users from Google not getting served with the correct picture. Possible leading to a high bounce rate. Plus I have the added problem that Google will see the master as less relevant for the colors as keywords. Since the keyword won't be in the page title, h1,h2,ex.. so all in all the page will have a very low relevance for the key-phrase  "blue t-shirt".

Hence I'm looking for a different solution

or maybe my explanation is just crappy

Hi there and thanks for your input. But what you mention is exactly what I already have (maybe I just explain it badly), I was kinda looking for a different amazingly brilliant solutions that I hadn't thought of myself

But your thoughts and time is very much appreciated. If you have any other ideas do let me know

Looking for some input on a SEO situation that I'm struggling with. I guess you could say it's a usability vs Google situation. The situation is as follows:

On a specific shop (lets say it's selling t-shirts). The products are sorted as follows each t-shit have a master and x number of variants (a color).

we have a product listing in this listing all the different colors (variants) are shown. When you click one of the t-shirts (eg: blue) you get redirected to the product master, where some code on the page tells the master that it should change the color selectors to the blue color. This information the page gets from a query string in the URL.

Now I could let Google index each URL for each color, and sort it out that way. except for the fact that the text doesn't change at all. Only thing that changes is the product image and that is changed with ajax in such a way that Google, most likely, won't notice that fact. ergo producing "duplicate content" problems.

Ok! So I could sort this problem with a "rel canon" but then we are in a situation where the only thing that tells Google that we are talking about a blue t-shirt is the link to the master from the product listing.

We end up in a situation where the master is the only one getting indexed, not a problem except for when people come from google directly to the product, I have no way of telling what color the costumer is looking for and hence won't know what image to serve her.

Now I could tell my client that they have to write a unique text for each varient but with 100 of thousands of variant combinations this is not realistic ir a real good solution.

I kinda need a new idea, any input idea or brain wave would be very welcome.

actually I don't mind shared hosting if they can surply the bandwith that I will potentially need. Am actually looking for something like a scaleable cloud solution would be awesome.

I'm not quite sure how much traffic the site will generate yet but potentially allot. Wich is why a scaleable solution would be perfect. But I can't have the site go offline because I have exceeded the monthly bandwidth.

probably won't need support what really interests me is the uptimes and bandwidth

what are your experience there?

I'm aware that this is not SEO related, but bare with me:

Launching a new business venture and need some advise. the site will be located in the UK (for legal reasons) and since I have no experience with UK webhosts. I kinda need your help on selecting a good webhost.

Money is not importants but what is:

- excellent up times

• unlimited bandwidth

So if you could share your experiences it would be much appreciated.

thx in advance

Honestly no.. and noone seems to know the answer (I ofcause havent tried to ask google). I have tried everyone from Search Engine Land, SEOmoz, webmaster forums, googles webmaster forums, other experts within the industry.. and noone seems to have any idea or have ever experienced it for that matter. What I wound up doing was:

1. make a new landing page for the subject and did a ton of link building paying close mind to the anvhor texts as always.

2. make a 301 redirect to the new page.

After some months the problem stopped.. I have however never found the reason for the problem. And no one seems to know the answer

the reson is: Back in the day (I do not know if it still does this, havent tested it or had cause to do so.) google indexed example.com/page/ and example.com/page as two different pages.

The quick fix is to make a RegEx that "tests for the excistense of a trailing slash at the end ofg the url" and then use that in your .htaccess to redirect all urls without to an url with. In other words add a trailing slash. (makes sence I hope.)

You could do the same thing with rel=canonical (even easier imo. since you can use php and do it in the relevant templates)

Here is Matts word on trailing slashes: http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/seo-advice-url-canonicalization/#comment-8260

usually they don't have links from the same places so if you get all the links they have and more you have beaten them hands down, and then after that well I guess google is your friend

In my experience no

Have you made a competitive analysis and checked where the strongest competitors get links from? That's usually the way I go

1. if the rest of the content is different and there is enough unique content) then no i shouldn't be a problem.

2. If above is ok then 2 won't be a problem

3. Yes just like any other link building will help you.

That said I would advice on making a few landing pages on the site and use it as a portal for the main site. Just keep the content unique and relevant and you won't have any problems. Plus you should get a proff. designer to make a nice user friendly landing page design that works.

I could probably be of service but since I'm Danish You'll have to give me an example of a "trailing" slash.. A guess it's a slash that tips the left? eg: "" or is it this one: "/"

if you help me understand what you mean I might be able to help you

Ahh ok sry misunderstood the question (my bad):

If you have a page (the one linked to with an anchor text) and this page contains do-follow links then some of the "value" (for the search phrase in question) will flow to the other pages. But! (there's always a but since only a small percentage of the value will flow, the value of the other pages are most likely to little to show up in any search result, since other pages will probably out weigh it in the SERP's.

In other words: Yes anchor text flows just like link-juice