Interesting, thx. Can I do following: Add "noindex, follow" to those guide pages? In this way they wont compete w MLS result pages, which they currently do. Issue is all that geeat unique picture and video content wont be indexed by Google.....maybe not a big issue?
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RE: Infinite Scrolling: how to index all pictures
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RE: Infinite Scrolling: how to index all pictures
thx, Pete. Guides are more for users who are curious about pictures and videos - not something I care about ranking for. Ex: http://www.honoluluhi5.com/waikiki-condos-real-estate/
MLS result pages is my life and I moved a lot of written content to MLS result pages to add unique content. Ex: http://www.honoluluhi5.com/oahu/honolulu/metro/waikiki-condos/ (you will see unique content below map and thumb MLS pictures).
I feel this layout is ideal long-term. I link from guide (as you can see above) to the corresponding MLS result page. Hope this makes sense
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RE: Infinite Scrolling: how to index all pictures
thx a lot. "Viewing it as manipulative" - it makes sense. I will certainly refrain from doing so.
I keep saying last question, but this should be: moving some written content from Page A to Page B (yet keeping Page A, just less content remaining on Page A) is OK and will after a while be viewing as Page B's original content and Page B will get the SEO credit. This is done without a 301 re-direct, since Page A is still a page with pictures that are original and unique and I want Google to index all those pictures. Just that a bunch of unique written content was moved from Page A to Page B. I have moved written content from about 200 different guide type pages to 200 MLS result pages, as it makes more sense to have it there. Would it be safer to include the 301 re-direct and simply lose the picture indexing to play it safe?
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RE: Infinite Scrolling: how to index all pictures
thx. 1 last slight different, but related question: What is your view in placing written content above other content in source code, but on webpage written content displays below other content? In my case: MLS thumb pictures and descriptions (same as other realtors' websites) show on top of page and as users scroll down they see a lot of written unique original content I have. Search engines like written content higher on page, so would it be a good idea to place written content above the MLS data in the source code, though on webpage it will still display below MLS data.
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RE: Keyword and SERP Help Please
If your site is new(er) and / or simply does not have much trust from search engines yet (do not rank well) I would strongly encourage you to use similar keywords on page as long as it does not compromise user experience. Ideally also get those keywords in your H1. As your site becomes more trusted you can get away with more (less keywords on page) and still rank. It sounds like you may have a site where I would not recommend such approach yet.
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RE: Infinite Scrolling: how to index all pictures
thank you very much. The idea was to move a lot of great pictures from a "gallery" to a page I want to rank for. Gallery page serves no purpose but for users to see beautiful pictures and obviously for Google to index a lot of unique pictures. I guess I will leave the gallery as is and simply from the gallery inter-link to the important page.
Implementation on your suggestion can be done (my web developers have already completed, just not implemented), however, it sounds to me, if I read between the lines correctly, that there is a risk Google may screw up on interpretation of such implementation and this could potentially even hurt my site with duplicate content issues…….
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RE: Infinite Scrolling: how to index all pictures
Hi Pete,
There is no mechanisim that will allow a) Lots of different pictures in a slideshow only to load when users scroll to a certain part of a part yet not slowing page speed and all pictures being indexed by Google. If you can show me 1 example on the Internet that has a solution to this, I would love to see it.This is what is possible to create (not my website, just an example): http://diveintohtml5.info/examples/history/brandy.html - I can implement such picture slideshow - which loads when users scroll down on my page - and then notice how the URL will change for each picture (as you change picture), but rest of the content on the page will stay the same. Now, the big questions go:
- Will the main (important) URL get the SEO credit for all these other URL's where each picture is located?
- Since each picture is on a different URL, each URL will get SEO credit separately and main URL will gain nothing from these pictures from an SEO perspective
- Since written content is EXACTLY the same across each of these picture URL's it will look like duplicate content and it would be good to use a canonical to make sure main URL gets all SEO credit.
- How would you place 20 unique copyrighted pictures on a URL and make sure that URL gets the SEO credit, keeping in mind the pictures can ONLY load after users scroll to a certain point on the page, as the page will otherwise load too slowly.
Highly appreciate your thoughts on this, since experts say there is a solution, but I am yet to seeing 1 concrete piece of evidence.
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RE: Moving Some Content From Page A to Page B
but as long as I have a lot of great pictures indexed by Google wouldn't it be a waste to noindex such pages, even though I do not care about ranking for those pages? In other words, if I have "noindex, follow" wouldn't that mean Google will not count all the pictures on such pages and that could ultimately hurt more important pages on my site? I want to move these pictures to other page where the pictures do not load before users scroll. I will share with my web developers what you mentioned above. If you can think what the javascript is please do keep me posted
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RE: Infinite Scrolling: how to index all pictures
CORRECTION: URL 1 and URL 2 are the opposite of what I described. In other words, I want to move pictures from 1) to 2). I already moved written content from 1) to 2).
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RE: Infinite Scrolling: how to index all pictures
On this URL 1) http://www.honoluluhi5.com/oahu/honolulu-city-real-estate/ - you will see written content at lower part of the page. This written content was originally on this URL 2) http://www.honoluluhi5.com/oahu/honolulu-homes/. I moved it because the URL 1) is the page I want to rank for and 2) served more as a guide. I want to move the pictures from 2) as well to 1) and then add a 301 redirect. However, this is NOT possible, because if I place pictures on 1) where users only see it after scrolling down to a certain place on the URL, Google is not able to index all those pictures. Only way to index those pictures is having them load when users land on the page, which would slow down the page and be a terrible user experience.
I am told there is a solution to get these pictures indexed, but so far no one has been able to present a concrete solution.
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RE: Infinite Scrolling: how to index all pictures
thank you, Pete.
- All images are my own and unique (ex: http://www.honoluluhi5.com/oahu/honolulu-city-real-estate/)
- Infinite scrolling is what I am to use, otherwise loading will be too slow. Issue: When user scrolls and the pictures load, how do I set it so those images are indexed by Google? For written content it is easy to get the content indexed by Google with infinite scrolling. However, with images there seems to be no solution. In other words: if a URL has 10 images that only show after users scroll down to lower part of a given page, then those 10 images will not be indexed by Google and the page will not get the SEO credit. Any solution to this? These sources deals with the infinite scrolling and indexing issues, but does not apply to images:
http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2014/02/infinite-scroll-search-friendly.html http://www.appelsiini.net/projects/lazyload http://luis-almeida.github.io/unveil/
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RE: Infinite Scrolling: how to index all pictures
I missed your point here. The page does not naturally suit for infinite scrolling in your opinion?
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RE: Infinite Scrolling: how to index all pictures
Travis: slight different, but related question: The written content you see at lower part of the URL I want to rank for, used to be on the other URL and I recently moved the content (no 301 redirect since I still have the pictures and video on the other URL). Will Google over time accept the unique content on the URL I want to rank for and credit that URL fully, OR will google notice the content originally was on the not important URL initially and therefore I risk the URL that now has the content will not get any credit for the content?
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RE: Infinite Scrolling: how to index all pictures
thx, Travis. The idea is not about being fancy: I do not want infinite scrolling. It comes down to me wanting to move a lot of great pictures and a video to this page that I want to rank for:
http://www.honoluluhi5.com/oahu/honolulu/metro/waikiki-condos/
…and here are the pictures and video: http://www.honoluluhi5.com/waikiki-condos-real-estate/The ladder page means nothing to me, except being nice pictures and video for the user. However, if I placed it under the written content on the 1st URL that would add extra "juice" of quality content to that page and I would long-term rank that much better. However, those pictures would tremendously slow loading and that is the issue……
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Infinite Scrolling: how to index all pictures
I have a page where I want to upload 20 pictures that are in a slideshow. Idea is that pictures will only load when users scroll down the page (otherwise too heavy loading). I see documentation on how to make this work and ensure search engines index all content. However, I do not see any documentation how to make this work for 20 pictures in a slideshow. It seems impossible to get a search engines to index all such pictures, when it shows only as users scroll down a page. This is documentation I am already familiar with, and which does not address my issue:
http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2014/02/infinite-scroll-search-friendly.html http://www.appelsiini.net/projects/lazyload http://luis-almeida.github.io/unveil/thank you
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RE: Moving Some Content From Page A to Page B
The bigger issue is I would like to add pictures to Page B (delete from Page A) but that would make Page B too heavy loading. So, I wanted to create it so pictures (if moved to Page B) only loads if users scroll down the page. However, in this way I cant get Google to index all those pictures. Or, is there a way to have pictures only load after users scroll, yet all pictures are indexed by Google?
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RE: Moving Some Content From Page A to Page B
Gianluca, thx. Question: Page A's written content is now on page B. Page A has lots of great pictures and I imagine Google seeing I have a lot of pages with pictures (just like Page A) it would make sense to keep indexed even though I do not expect any traffic from search. Since the written content is no longer on Page A, am I not guaranteed Page B will receive the SEO credit for the written content when Google crawls again? Or, are you implying I need to place a noindex on Page A in order to increase chance Page B gets the SEO credit since the content originally was placed o Page A (though it ia no longer there, so no duplicate content here).
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Moving Some Content From Page A to Page B
Page A has written content, pictures, videos.
The written content from Page A is being moved to Page B. When Google crawls the pages next time around will Page B receive the content credit? Will there not be any issues that this content originally belonged to Page A?
Page A is not a page I want to rank for (just have great pictures and videos for users). Can I 301 redirect from Page A to B since the written content from A has been deleted or no need? Again, I intent to keep Page A live because good value for users to see pictures and videos.
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RE: Interlinking from unique content page to limited content page
As a new website I think safe bet is to include all content on 1 page. Keyword variation means content stays seperated. Better combine and make 1 powerful page.....thx for the insight
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RE: Interlinking from unique content page to limited content page
Page 1 has great statistics. Page 2 is more of a guide with videos, pics and more. If page 1 tried to rank for "NEIGHBORHOOD Homes for Sale" and Page 2 "NEIGHBORHOOD Real Estate" would this be different enough? Or, you feel I should really move all that unique content (pics, videos etc) on lower part of Page 1 and use a 301 redirect and shut down Page 2?