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    • seoanalytics
      seoanalytics last edited by

      Hey Nigel,

      Just bothering you one more time. I am wondering if we take our current text and just change some of the words we currently have with some semantically related keyword from the keyword tool if it is going to have an impact or if you recommend writing from scratch ?

      My question is out of a 1000 words how many semantically related keywords do I need to add to see an impact. Is there a percentage recommended ? I have the feeling that 10 words peppered here and there won't be enough ? am I right ?

      Thank you again for all you help,

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        Nigel_Carr @seoanalytics last edited by

        Hi seoanalytics

        As you have already pointed out each page has a 'theme'

        We have established that the theme is the most important Key Phrase on the page. ie Piedmont Bike Tours.

        You do not _have _to search for every semantically connected word or phrase and use them all because Google understands what the theme is. You merely need to support the theme with some semantically related content that can contain some supporting baby anchor words and phrases spun within the writing ina contextually relevant way

        You need to write from scratch with this in mind.

        If you just plop some words and phrases in it will not read correctly.

        Rankbrain, which is Google's new(ish) way of ranking pages using AI, understands what a theme is - you are merely helping it understand.

        You risk keyword stuffing with the approach you suggest.

        Regards

        Nigel

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        • seoanalytics
          seoanalytics last edited by

          Hi Nigel,

          How many semantically connected keywords do you recommend in a 1000 word post ?

          I have read about rankbrain but not sure how it makes my keyword research different ?

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          • Nigel_Carr
            Nigel_Carr @seoanalytics last edited by

            I think you are now at risk of overthinking everything.

            Use the MOZ list I gave you and write a page.Then let me see it.  - I feel I've written it already lol! 😉

            Use the core Keyphrase as Piedmont Bike Tours and write some interesting content on the subject.

            Don't have a fixed number of semantics, write freely, when you think you are about to repeat yourself use a synonym or semantically connected phrase.

            If you carry on as you are you'll never write anything, and will become bogged down in Rankbrain, Proxemics and Semiotics!

            It's time for action - (Don't look up those words as you will end up in a rabbit hole screaming to be let out!)

            Regards

            Nigel

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            • seoanalytics
              seoanalytics last edited by

              Time for action, you are right. I will send you what I wrote once done so you can give me your thoughts on it.

              Thank you,

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              • Nigel_Carr
                Nigel_Carr @seoanalytics last edited by

                'What I have written'  😉

                Good luck!

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                • seoanalytics
                  seoanalytics last edited by

                  Nigel,

                  Just to confirm you got my private message ?

                  Thank you,

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                  • Nigel_Carr
                    Nigel_Carr @seoanalytics last edited by

                    Yes - I am just doing something else.

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                    • seoanalytics
                      seoanalytics last edited by

                      No problem, just wanted to make sure you received those to.

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                      • seoanalytics
                        seoanalytics last edited by

                        Hey Nigel.

                        In one of your messages you say it can take up to 6 weeks to see some results. I checked my pages and sometimes I see no changes for 5 weeks and then on week 6 I see a climb.

                        Sometimes after I made changes, within  a week I see my pages climibing up the ranking. Sometimes when I make a change it moves down the ranking for a week and then moves back up...

                        Is 6 weeks based on on your experience ? I am just wondering starting if it wouldn't better to wait 6 weeks as I have seen rankings not move for 5 weeks and then move suddently instead of make changes after 3 weeks of no movement...

                        The thing is that based on my experience in 90 % of the cases if I don't make changes I see no ranking variations.

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                        • Nigel_Carr
                          Nigel_Carr @seoanalytics last edited by

                          It depends on how frequently your site is crawled. If you check the cache in search results and click the green down arrow you will see the last time Google updated its cache of your page. I have seen pages move sooner than this but if you take that time as a yardstick you will be about right.

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                          • seoanalytics
                            seoanalytics last edited by

                            Does it mean that once the page is cached the ranking is "final". So if a page is cached every 5 weeks it will take 5 weeks if it cached every week it will take a week ?

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                              Nigel_Carr @seoanalytics last edited by

                              No, I've found pages moving weeks after the first cache after major surgery!

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