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    • seoanalytics
      seoanalytics last edited by

      Hi Nigel,

      Thank you for your reply. I know I ask a lot of question and know I am in the right direction as I already saw some results but not all my pages so I am trying to figure out what I did wrong on the pages that didn't climb 🙂

      To summarize when into the keyword explorer I enter my keyword let's take "alsace bike tours" as an example and the keyword explorer is giving me "alsace region" with a good relevancy, what do I need to do it ?

      Write a sentence with alsace region in it (Ibecause from what I understand it is a a word that is semantically related to my keyword but not a synonym), correct ? and then I need to explain alsace region with "secondary related " keywords, saying for example: The Alsace region is in the north east of France and it borders Germany.

      Then, I need to do this process for all the words that keyword explorer gives me for my main keyword ?

      Concerning routes and trails that you mention are those synonyms what you consider synonyms of tours ?

      Thank you,

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      • Nigel_Carr
        Nigel_Carr @seoanalytics last edited by

        Exactly!

        Yes the Topic will be 'Alsace Bike Tours'

        You will start the piece with:

        The Alsace region is in the northeast of France bordering Germany...

        Then go on to describe it in a little detail - is it mountainous, very flat, hills, mud tarmac/concrete ...etc...)

        Then describe the tours themselves in greater detail.

        I think routes, tours and trails fall very close to each other - all three are semantically related if not close synonyms! 🙂

        Regards

        Nigel

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        • seoanalytics
          seoanalytics last edited by

          So after using alsace region a semantically related keyword can I use other semantically related keyword that the keyword tools gives me such as Riquewhir, Colmar and Strasbourg and describe those with the right secondary related keyword so that google understands the meaning of those words ?

          By the way is there a way to find the secondary related keyword to describe Strasbourg (by typing in the keyword tool Strasbourg) ?

          Finally, do Strasbourg and Colmar and colmar need to come as the subject of the my sentence... or can I write something like Later on, travel to Strasbourg a town famous for it's cathedral ?

          Thank you and have a great evening,

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          • seoanalytics
            seoanalytics last edited by

            By the way what are the related keywords for alsace bike tours (to describe an alsace bike tours) ? it is harder to find than for Colmar for example ? or is words like routes, trails etc...

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            • Nigel_Carr
              Nigel_Carr @seoanalytics last edited by

              I think it's better to use your brain for this and Google - you just don't need to be so rigorous about it. Google isn't necessarily looking for synonyms and semantics - it's only if those terms are being searched and form part of the family of words and phrases surrounding the main term.

              If there are none, there are none.

              However I have attached a MOZ download of Alsace Region and Alacse Bike Tours - this gives you an idea of what MOZ is showing for related searches but frankly they are the same as if you had done this yourself in the search box. e.g. alsace cycling holidays, guided cycling tours france, cycling alsace self guided.

              The point is you don't need all of them in order like some list. You need to write properly constructed sentences where you can 'pepper' the text with some of them.

              Regards

              Nigel

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              • seoanalytics
                seoanalytics last edited by

                Just curious why you send alsace region as an attachement, is it to find the semantically related keywords to alsace region which is a semantically related keyword to alsace bike tour ?

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                • Nigel_Carr
                  Nigel_Carr @seoanalytics last edited by

                  Only because you mentioned it further up - I was looking for synonyms for the word 'region' - you don't need it really. Although I suppose you could include a map with the trails picked out in red?

                  Regards

                  Nigel

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                  • seoanalytics
                    seoanalytics last edited by

                    Hello Nigel,

                    To summarize and before I start writing my content

                    1. Take my focus keyword (the one I want to rank for) and type it in google

                    2. Look at related searches and if I can include some of the related searches terms in my content included them.

                    3. If not go in google keyword tool type my focus keyword and look for keyword suggestions which are similar to related search and see which one I can include in my content.

                    4. Then as I include those keywords, describe them so that the computer can understand what I am talking about.

                    For example : Barolo a nice area to bicycle in (bad content from what I understand because the computer won't understand anything about Barolo. However, Barolo, a wine area in the Province of Cuneo much better, isn't it ?

                    Then wait and see...

                    However, it is kind of pure luck because we don't know what the computer knows and what is the most related for the machine.

                    Thank you,

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                    • seoanalytics
                      seoanalytics last edited by

                      Hey Nigel,

                      Just bothering you one more time. I am wondering if we take our current text and just change some of the words we currently have with some semantically related keyword from the keyword tool if it is going to have an impact or if you recommend writing from scratch ?

                      My question is out of a 1000 words how many semantically related keywords do I need to add to see an impact. Is there a percentage recommended ? I have the feeling that 10 words peppered here and there won't be enough ? am I right ?

                      Thank you again for all you help,

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                      • Nigel_Carr
                        Nigel_Carr @seoanalytics last edited by

                        Hi seoanalytics

                        As you have already pointed out each page has a 'theme'

                        We have established that the theme is the most important Key Phrase on the page. ie Piedmont Bike Tours.

                        You do not _have _to search for every semantically connected word or phrase and use them all because Google understands what the theme is. You merely need to support the theme with some semantically related content that can contain some supporting baby anchor words and phrases spun within the writing ina contextually relevant way

                        You need to write from scratch with this in mind.

                        If you just plop some words and phrases in it will not read correctly.

                        Rankbrain, which is Google's new(ish) way of ranking pages using AI, understands what a theme is - you are merely helping it understand.

                        You risk keyword stuffing with the approach you suggest.

                        Regards

                        Nigel

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                        • seoanalytics
                          seoanalytics last edited by

                          Hi Nigel,

                          How many semantically connected keywords do you recommend in a 1000 word post ?

                          I have read about rankbrain but not sure how it makes my keyword research different ?

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                          • Nigel_Carr
                            Nigel_Carr @seoanalytics last edited by

                            I think you are now at risk of overthinking everything.

                            Use the MOZ list I gave you and write a page.Then let me see it.  - I feel I've written it already lol! 😉

                            Use the core Keyphrase as Piedmont Bike Tours and write some interesting content on the subject.

                            Don't have a fixed number of semantics, write freely, when you think you are about to repeat yourself use a synonym or semantically connected phrase.

                            If you carry on as you are you'll never write anything, and will become bogged down in Rankbrain, Proxemics and Semiotics!

                            It's time for action - (Don't look up those words as you will end up in a rabbit hole screaming to be let out!)

                            Regards

                            Nigel

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                            • seoanalytics
                              seoanalytics last edited by

                              Time for action, you are right. I will send you what I wrote once done so you can give me your thoughts on it.

                              Thank you,

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                              • Nigel_Carr
                                Nigel_Carr @seoanalytics last edited by

                                'What I have written'  😉

                                Good luck!

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                                • seoanalytics
                                  seoanalytics last edited by

                                  Nigel,

                                  Just to confirm you got my private message ?

                                  Thank you,

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                                  • Nigel_Carr
                                    Nigel_Carr @seoanalytics last edited by

                                    Yes - I am just doing something else.

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                                    • seoanalytics
                                      seoanalytics last edited by

                                      No problem, just wanted to make sure you received those to.

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                                      • seoanalytics
                                        seoanalytics last edited by

                                        Hey Nigel.

                                        In one of your messages you say it can take up to 6 weeks to see some results. I checked my pages and sometimes I see no changes for 5 weeks and then on week 6 I see a climb.

                                        Sometimes after I made changes, within  a week I see my pages climibing up the ranking. Sometimes when I make a change it moves down the ranking for a week and then moves back up...

                                        Is 6 weeks based on on your experience ? I am just wondering starting if it wouldn't better to wait 6 weeks as I have seen rankings not move for 5 weeks and then move suddently instead of make changes after 3 weeks of no movement...

                                        The thing is that based on my experience in 90 % of the cases if I don't make changes I see no ranking variations.

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                                        • Nigel_Carr
                                          Nigel_Carr @seoanalytics last edited by

                                          It depends on how frequently your site is crawled. If you check the cache in search results and click the green down arrow you will see the last time Google updated its cache of your page. I have seen pages move sooner than this but if you take that time as a yardstick you will be about right.

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                                          • seoanalytics
                                            seoanalytics last edited by

                                            Does it mean that once the page is cached the ranking is "final". So if a page is cached every 5 weeks it will take 5 weeks if it cached every week it will take a week ?

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