How To Determine Bad Backlinks?

[nyanainc]

Ok, can you show me a website which have only earned links? And is beating the others ? First of all this is not possible in all niches. To rank with only earned links.

[Klarke]

I sense I may have hurt your feelings or something.

How about seomoz.org ?  #3 for SEO, among thousands of others I'm sure and they're not doing any of the junk above.

Here's a few more: http://www.seomoz.org/blog/white-hat-seo-it-fing-works-12421.  A fairly diverse set of "niches".

Blaming the "niche" because it's boring is a poor excuse.

[nyanainc]

No you didn't. This you was trying to do? I just read that post as you suggested. I didn't doubt about seomoz links. What about the seo.com links? To get earned links is little difficult. You need unique+great content to achieve it. Not all people can afford to do this. So why not to give one alternative solution to our friend above, not black hat, but maybe Less costly? Or this is unethical for you?I don't know what job you do in real or what believes you have as a human but natural - un natural is almost the same. The same is black hat - white hat. Everything looks like how you want to see them. If one person add a link to your site from his profile for you is earned , but if you build a profile and you add it alone is black hat or builded , or a crappy link as you stated.

[Klarke]

No.. natural / unnatural not the same.  Very different - like night and day.  And it's something Google is working very hard on to be able to tell the difference.   They are still not there yet, but with each update they get better.

But I do agree with your point that it's about how you see it.

[nyanainc]

I like speaking with you Hmm so this is the weakness of Google? I tell you something, I am trying to rank a site now with the main keyword difficulty 67%. Is not my seo site, is one other affiliate site. You know what frustrates me ? That the number 1 is ranking with links  by xrumer. The number 2 is a totally white hat site. The rest are also white hat sites. That confused me you know...So this guy , who put in number 1 the site is having very good knowledge of the weakness of Google? What going on? Anyway he don't have almost any of the backlinks what you stated above. Most of them are contextual (web 2.0 ) or from related sites , which after he bombard them with xrumer. You can advice me on this?

[Klarke]

I see alot of those rank and bank operations.  From experience, the best advice I can give is to keep doing what you're doing and don't worry about the xrummer guy.

They almost always last for a few months, and then they disappear.   They then, rinse and replace lost sites with new ones.

[nyanainc]

This what I am hoping is that Google start to count also the 2-3 tier links to the site. Because I didn't see sites like this to get affected. Also the seo.com is using other tactics. Example I count 10 high authority blogger profiles with contextual link. I don't know if they are still there but , this is grey or black? Or can be seen also like a white ? How you see this tactic? For me stink to tell you the truth.

[Debdulal]

Great discussion going on here .. OK let us face the truth like a man .. Google just do not want us to do SEO .. all it wants that we should be creating awesome content , tools and things like and when people find them, they will start giving the website a credit in the form of a natural link back .. so far so good .. but the problem is that this rarely happens .. however, again the scope of Internet marketing is no longer limited to link building but as things are, we are still heavily dependent on this .. and there is no way to deny

[AlanBleiweiss]

Why is "30" a number to recommend?  I can count thousands of sites out there that are perfectly legitimate, high quality sites that don't have a high authority score.  It would be completely unnatural for a site to NOT have at least some links from low "authority" sites.

Authority score CAN be an indicator yet it's not a hard and fast "for sure" way to determine if a site is a good site or not.

[nyanainc]

---> Why is "30" a number to recommend?  --->Because that wasn't my idea. Somebody from the Gurus here suggested to me this and to the rest of the community. Make a search on the posts and maybe you find it.

[MyNet]

Hi Klarke, thanks for the reply.  So, I have indeed created and submitted articles to article directories.  However, they were extremely high quality, and full of good information that people actually need to know about certain industries.  The articles were in no way spam.  The only link I included in these articles were in the bio/author section.  It seems natural and understood that the author that wrote the article would link back to their content, in case readers want to learn more about the author.

I also commented on blogs, forums, etc, and left my website in the “Website Field Box”.  However, I used my real name and not some anchor text.  I also wrote legitimate comments that added additional information and engaging responses to the topic, not spam.  That’s what forums and blog comments are for.  It again seems natural that if someone leaves an engaging comment that they leave their website under their name so people can go their for more information, after all that is why their is a “Website Field Box”.

I have read SEO articles across the internet that also says delete comment and article spam etc.  However, these suggestions seem to be general suggestions that assume that everyone commenting or writing articles were abusive in doing so and created spammy content.  However, that is not the case with me.  All of these things were genuine and provided good information.

Nevertheless, the issue remains that Google sent me this message saying it had an issue with my links.  No doubt surely the majority of these links are responsible for helping my website rank well and are liked by Google.  My fear is if I simply go through and try to delete all of these types of links my rankings will tank.

So, the question is how do I know which links Google is looking unfavorably on, so I can only address those?