The Moz Q&A Forum

    • Forum
    • Questions
    • My Q&A
    • Users
    • Ask the Community

    Welcome to the Q&A Forum

    Browse the forum for helpful insights and fresh discussions about all things SEO.

    1. SEO and Digital Marketing Q&A Forum
    2. Categories
    3. Technical SEO Issues
    4. One Keyword Rank Inexplicably Blasted Into Oblivion

    One Keyword Rank Inexplicably Blasted Into Oblivion

    Technical SEO Issues
    36 10 2.8k
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as question
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • 94501
      94501 last edited by

      Here's an update. These serps are 1 or two days apart: 11 75 63 33 So, it may have swung around past the dark side of the Moon and be on a trajectory to re-enter Earth's orbit.

      MarieHaynes Thos003 AlanBleiweiss 3 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 2
      • MarieHaynes
        MarieHaynes @94501 last edited by

        Yay!  Let's hope it keeps going!

        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • Thos003
          Thos003 @MarieHaynes last edited by

          That would seem like the thought process... but dropping it from 11 to 13 would still give them a comparison.  But hey, we are playing in their sandbox so they make the rules.

          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • Thos003
            Thos003 @94501 last edited by

            I've heard some compare this scenario as the pendulum swing.  You give it a little push in one direction and it will push back the other a bit. The bigger the swing back the bigger the jump forward. Like a pendulum the point is to find the balanced center.

            94501 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • 94501
              94501 @Thos003 last edited by

              I'm loving the optimism! I'll continue to post rank, in case anybody's interested in the experiment results.

              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
              • 94501
                94501 @SteveOllington last edited by

                So here's the update I promised. The rank continues to jump around like crazy. I think it's been on every one of the first 10 pages in the last two weeks. This morning it was at page 1, #3. At this moment it's nowhere to be found! Isn't that strange? Best....Michael

                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • AlanBleiweiss
                  AlanBleiweiss @94501 last edited by

                  Okay based on that pattern, I've seen similar volatility with some phrases but not others for a client in a highly competitive market, with the volatility lasting years.  From what I have been able to ascertain, in this case it was due to the fierce nature of competitive activity for those phrases - literally where X number of competitors have been fighting it out.  In that time-span we've bounced back to the top a number of times, only to have those phrases drop again, then rebound.

                  94501 AlanBleiweiss Thos003 4 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • 94501
                    94501 @AlanBleiweiss last edited by

                    Thanks Alan,

                    Hey, just got done reading your excellent piece on SEO audits.A super interesting point in that piece about link ratios.

                    I get what you're saying about competition.  Using SEOMoz's handy difficulty tool, this phrase is a 38% difficulty.  It doesn't seem like it should be this hard. If you want, drop me an email and I'll share some other details with you. Thanks! Best...Michael

                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • AlanBleiweiss
                      AlanBleiweiss @AlanBleiweiss last edited by

                      If I had the time, I'd like to learn more specifics.  Unfortunately I struggle to eek out enough time to just participate here in the Q&A system as it is...

                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • 94501
                        94501 @AlanBleiweiss last edited by

                        I understand. This thing is more strange than mission critical. Best...Michael

                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • Thos003
                          Thos003 @AlanBleiweiss last edited by

                          Yes... It's not just what you are doing but what your competitors are doing. It's an on going war out there. Bunker down boys.

                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • portalseo
                            portalseo last edited by

                            'Google Shuffle' Give it a couple of weeks and it should come back. Check the usual culprits (Dupe Content) and go over all the changes implimented before it occured.

                            94501 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • 94501
                              94501 @portalseo last edited by

                              Hi,

                              Thanks for the message. Good points.

                              At this juncture on this term (thankfully not all keywords), it doesn't even seem like Google has a system.  It can be #5 or #75 or #23... whatever.

                              Like, if this was a piece of equipment, like radar in a plane, one minute it shows no planes and an available runway and the next minute lotsa planes and no airport. If it were a piece of equipment, you'd chuck it! Helluva way to run an airline!

                              OcularConcepts 94501 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • OcularConcepts
                                OcularConcepts @inhouseninja last edited by

                                Steve,

                                Give me an example and I will be happily accepting what you say here. That never happens. Even in most of the polluted niches like Web Design or online pills, backlink anchor text semantics seem to be working pretty fine. There are so many factors at play that it is easy to confuse it with semnatics of anchor text, but really doesn't works that way.

                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • OcularConcepts
                                  OcularConcepts @94501 last edited by

                                  Did you check if the same page ranks at 11 and 73 or 75? I want to bring forth the classical page vs site discussion and it is not clear if it is an internal page that showing at the lower positions or is it the same page (home page may be).

                                  If the home page was ranking and it has dropped, try and do a site search on Google with that keyword and link from the 2nd most important page to the home page using the same anchor. Of course, if some other page is ranking, this won't be a ranking penalty but some other thing at play which has to do with your webpage.

                                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • SteveOllington
                                    SteveOllington @inhouseninja last edited by

                                    I can give you tonnes of examples, I have some affiliate sites I test things with, and we've taken over client sites who had previously had that kind of SEO... It definitely works that way.

                                    Also, we've made the mistake on our own clients.

                                    Buy the new Link Love Videos from Distilled and you'll see that Wil Reynolds goes over it being an issue in his "Pitfalls and Mistakes" video: http://www.distilled.net/store/linklove2011-pitfalls/

                                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • 94501
                                      94501 @94501 last edited by

                                      Hi,

                                      I only check the highest instance of it. Today, it was at #17, which is where it's been for a while.

                                      To answer your question, it's an interior page, not the home page.

                                      Thanks!

                                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • NickPateman81
                                        NickPateman81 last edited by

                                        I'm guessing your domain name was new. It took from November until May for this new website to settle down in 1st. Very common for new websites, in fact it's almost inevitable and can last from 1 week to 6 months:

                                        Check Date         Rank      URL Found

                                        |

                                        Jun 9, 2011

                                        |

                                        1

                                        May 20, 2011

                                        |

                                        1

                                        May 18, 2011

                                        |

                                        1

                                        May 17, 2011

                                        |

                                        1

                                        May 13, 2011

                                        |

                                        1

                                        May 12, 2011

                                        |

                                        1

                                        May 11, 2011

                                        |

                                        1

                                        May 10, 2011

                                        |

                                        1

                                        May 9, 2011

                                        |

                                        1

                                        May 4, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        May 3, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Apr 28, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Apr 20, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Apr 19, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Apr 18, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Apr 15, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Apr 14, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Apr 13, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Apr 12, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Apr 11, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Apr 8, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Apr 7, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Apr 6, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Apr 5, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Apr 4, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Apr 2, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Apr 1, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Mar 31, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Mar 30, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Mar 29, 2011

                                        |

                                        1

                                        Mar 28, 2011

                                        |

                                        1

                                        Mar 27, 2011

                                        |

                                        2

                                        Mar 26, 2011

                                        |

                                        2

                                        Mar 25, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Mar 24, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Mar 23, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Mar 22, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Mar 21, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Mar 18, 2011

                                        |

                                        1

                                        Mar 16, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Mar 15, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Mar 14, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Mar 11, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Mar 9, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Mar 8, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Mar 7, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Mar 4, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Mar 2, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Mar 1, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Feb 28, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Feb 27, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Feb 25, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Feb 24, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Feb 23, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Feb 22, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Feb 21, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Feb 18, 2011

                                        |

                                        95

                                        Feb 17, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Feb 16, 2011

                                        |

                                        89

                                        Feb 15, 2011

                                        |

                                        94

                                        Feb 14, 2011

                                        |

                                        94

                                        Feb 11, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Feb 10, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Feb 9, 2011

                                        |

                                        90

                                        Feb 8, 2011

                                        |

                                        82

                                        Feb 7, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Feb 4, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Feb 3, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Feb 2, 2011

                                        |

                                        99

                                        Jan 31, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Jan 30, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Jan 27, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Jan 26, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Jan 25, 2011

                                        |

                                        98

                                        Jan 24, 2011

                                        |

                                        94

                                        Jan 22, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Jan 21, 2011

                                        |

                                        97

                                        Jan 20, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Jan 19, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Jan 18, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Jan 17, 2011

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Jan 14, 2011

                                        |

                                        11

                                        Jan 13, 2011

                                        |

                                        12

                                        Jan 12, 2011

                                        |

                                        11

                                        Jan 11, 2011

                                        |

                                        11

                                        Jan 10, 2011

                                        |

                                        11

                                        Jan 9, 2011

                                        |

                                        12

                                        Jan 7, 2011

                                        |

                                        9

                                        Jan 6, 2011

                                        |

                                        9

                                        Jan 5, 2011

                                        |

                                        9

                                        Jan 4, 2011

                                        |

                                        9

                                        Jan 3, 2011

                                        |

                                        9

                                        Jan 2, 2011

                                        |

                                        10

                                        Dec 31, 2010

                                        |

                                        11

                                        Dec 30, 2010

                                        |

                                        10

                                        Dec 29, 2010

                                        |

                                        1

                                        Dec 28, 2010

                                        |

                                        1

                                        Dec 27, 2010

                                        |

                                        1

                                        Dec 26, 2010

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Dec 24, 2010

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Dec 23, 2010

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Dec 22, 2010

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Dec 21, 2010

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Dec 20, 2010

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Dec 19, 2010

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Dec 18, 2010

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Dec 17, 2010

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Dec 16, 2010

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Dec 15, 2010

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Dec 14, 2010

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Dec 13, 2010

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Dec 11, 2010

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Dec 10, 2010

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Dec 6, 2010

                                        |

                                        1

                                        Nov 29, 2010

                                        |

                                        2

                                        Nov 26, 2010

                                        |

                                        2

                                        Nov 25, 2010

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Nov 23, 2010

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        Nov 16, 2010

                                        |

                                        Not in top 100

                                        |

                                        (Apologies for the length! It didn't look this big in the editor!)

                                        94501 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                        • 94501
                                          94501 @NickPateman81 last edited by

                                          Yes, time counts. The site is six years old. The page is a few months.

                                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                          • 1
                                          • 2
                                          • 2 / 2
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          • Why my site is not ranking for any of the keywords?
                                            rootwaysinc
                                            rootwaysinc
                                            0
                                            4
                                            321

                                          • Keywords Ranking Dropped
                                            KeriMorgret
                                            KeriMorgret
                                            0
                                            9
                                            470

                                          • Hello every one please give me idea about offpage techniques for keyword ranking for first page on top 5 all search engine ,and it must be durable for long time. If i will not use on page optimization?
                                            MarkScully
                                            MarkScully
                                            0
                                            9
                                            499

                                          • One Keyword Penalty
                                            David_ODonnell
                                            David_ODonnell
                                            0
                                            3
                                            482

                                          • Ranking in more than one country
                                            Dexx22
                                            Dexx22
                                            0
                                            3
                                            453

                                          • Keyword ranking not moving
                                            MentorMate
                                            MentorMate
                                            0
                                            2
                                            598

                                          • Of late after the Panda Update I see sub standard sites ranking. Take an example of www.seobaba.com which is ranking 8th for keyword SEO in Google. What is the reason for this ?
                                            southex2012
                                            southex2012
                                            1
                                            7
                                            608

                                          • Google WMT shows sitemap.xml highest ranked for one main keyword
                                            EricaMcGillivray
                                            EricaMcGillivray
                                            0
                                            2
                                            688

                                          Get started with Moz Pro!

                                          Unlock the power of advanced SEO tools and data-driven insights.

                                          Start my free trial
                                          Products
                                          • Moz Pro
                                          • Moz Local
                                          • Moz API
                                          • Moz Data
                                          • STAT
                                          • Product Updates
                                          Moz Solutions
                                          • SMB Solutions
                                          • Agency Solutions
                                          • Enterprise Solutions
                                          • Digital Marketers
                                          Free SEO Tools
                                          • Domain Authority Checker
                                          • Link Explorer
                                          • Keyword Explorer
                                          • Competitive Research
                                          • Brand Authority Checker
                                          • Local Citation Checker
                                          • MozBar Extension
                                          • MozCast
                                          Resources
                                          • Blog
                                          • SEO Learning Center
                                          • Help Hub
                                          • Beginner's Guide to SEO
                                          • How-to Guides
                                          • Moz Academy
                                          • API Docs
                                          About Moz
                                          • About
                                          • Team
                                          • Careers
                                          • Contact
                                          Why Moz
                                          • Case Studies
                                          • Testimonials
                                          Get Involved
                                          • Become an Affiliate
                                          • MozCon
                                          • Webinars
                                          • Practical Marketer Series
                                          • MozPod
                                          Connect with us

                                          Contact the Help team

                                          Join our newsletter
                                          Moz logo
                                          © 2021 - 2026 SEOMoz, Inc., a Ziff Davis company. All rights reserved. Moz is a registered trademark of SEOMoz, Inc.
                                          • Accessibility
                                          • Terms of Use
                                          • Privacy