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    • inhouseninja
      inhouseninja last edited by

      Incidentally  - the page I am trying to rank for is still appearing for another key word phrase - it’s just for the main keyword phrase that it has disappeared out of Google!  But for another related key phrase the page is at number 2!

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      • 94501
        94501 last edited by

        Here's an update. These serps are 1 or two days apart: 11 75 63 33 So, it may have swung around past the dark side of the Moon and be on a trajectory to re-enter Earth's orbit.

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        • MarieHaynes
          MarieHaynes @94501 last edited by

          Yay!  Let's hope it keeps going!

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          • Thos003
            Thos003 @MarieHaynes last edited by

            That would seem like the thought process... but dropping it from 11 to 13 would still give them a comparison.  But hey, we are playing in their sandbox so they make the rules.

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            • Thos003
              Thos003 @94501 last edited by

              I've heard some compare this scenario as the pendulum swing.  You give it a little push in one direction and it will push back the other a bit. The bigger the swing back the bigger the jump forward. Like a pendulum the point is to find the balanced center.

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              • 94501
                94501 @Thos003 last edited by

                I'm loving the optimism! I'll continue to post rank, in case anybody's interested in the experiment results.

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                • 94501
                  94501 @SteveOllington last edited by

                  So here's the update I promised. The rank continues to jump around like crazy. I think it's been on every one of the first 10 pages in the last two weeks. This morning it was at page 1, #3. At this moment it's nowhere to be found! Isn't that strange? Best....Michael

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                  • AlanBleiweiss
                    AlanBleiweiss @94501 last edited by

                    Okay based on that pattern, I've seen similar volatility with some phrases but not others for a client in a highly competitive market, with the volatility lasting years.  From what I have been able to ascertain, in this case it was due to the fierce nature of competitive activity for those phrases - literally where X number of competitors have been fighting it out.  In that time-span we've bounced back to the top a number of times, only to have those phrases drop again, then rebound.

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                    • 94501
                      94501 @AlanBleiweiss last edited by

                      Thanks Alan,

                      Hey, just got done reading your excellent piece on SEO audits.A super interesting point in that piece about link ratios.

                      I get what you're saying about competition.  Using SEOMoz's handy difficulty tool, this phrase is a 38% difficulty.  It doesn't seem like it should be this hard. If you want, drop me an email and I'll share some other details with you. Thanks! Best...Michael

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                      • AlanBleiweiss
                        AlanBleiweiss @AlanBleiweiss last edited by

                        If I had the time, I'd like to learn more specifics.  Unfortunately I struggle to eek out enough time to just participate here in the Q&A system as it is...

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                        • 94501
                          94501 @AlanBleiweiss last edited by

                          I understand. This thing is more strange than mission critical. Best...Michael

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                          • Thos003
                            Thos003 @AlanBleiweiss last edited by

                            Yes... It's not just what you are doing but what your competitors are doing. It's an on going war out there. Bunker down boys.

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                            • portalseo
                              portalseo last edited by

                              'Google Shuffle' Give it a couple of weeks and it should come back. Check the usual culprits (Dupe Content) and go over all the changes implimented before it occured.

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                              • 94501
                                94501 @portalseo last edited by

                                Hi,

                                Thanks for the message. Good points.

                                At this juncture on this term (thankfully not all keywords), it doesn't even seem like Google has a system.  It can be #5 or #75 or #23... whatever.

                                Like, if this was a piece of equipment, like radar in a plane, one minute it shows no planes and an available runway and the next minute lotsa planes and no airport. If it were a piece of equipment, you'd chuck it! Helluva way to run an airline!

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                                • OcularConcepts
                                  OcularConcepts @inhouseninja last edited by

                                  Steve,

                                  Give me an example and I will be happily accepting what you say here. That never happens. Even in most of the polluted niches like Web Design or online pills, backlink anchor text semantics seem to be working pretty fine. There are so many factors at play that it is easy to confuse it with semnatics of anchor text, but really doesn't works that way.

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                                  • OcularConcepts
                                    OcularConcepts @94501 last edited by

                                    Did you check if the same page ranks at 11 and 73 or 75? I want to bring forth the classical page vs site discussion and it is not clear if it is an internal page that showing at the lower positions or is it the same page (home page may be).

                                    If the home page was ranking and it has dropped, try and do a site search on Google with that keyword and link from the 2nd most important page to the home page using the same anchor. Of course, if some other page is ranking, this won't be a ranking penalty but some other thing at play which has to do with your webpage.

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                                    • SteveOllington
                                      SteveOllington @inhouseninja last edited by

                                      I can give you tonnes of examples, I have some affiliate sites I test things with, and we've taken over client sites who had previously had that kind of SEO... It definitely works that way.

                                      Also, we've made the mistake on our own clients.

                                      Buy the new Link Love Videos from Distilled and you'll see that Wil Reynolds goes over it being an issue in his "Pitfalls and Mistakes" video: http://www.distilled.net/store/linklove2011-pitfalls/

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                                      • 94501
                                        94501 @94501 last edited by

                                        Hi,

                                        I only check the highest instance of it. Today, it was at #17, which is where it's been for a while.

                                        To answer your question, it's an interior page, not the home page.

                                        Thanks!

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                                        • NickPateman81
                                          NickPateman81 last edited by

                                          I'm guessing your domain name was new. It took from November until May for this new website to settle down in 1st. Very common for new websites, in fact it's almost inevitable and can last from 1 week to 6 months:

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                                          • 94501
                                            94501 @NickPateman81 last edited by

                                            Yes, time counts. The site is six years old. The page is a few months.

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