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    • 94501
      94501 last edited by

      Okay, so I'm working on my site, minding my own business and everything is just great.

      Many different terms on pages 1 -4, all inching ever upward.

      When suddenly, one term that got all the way to #11 gets blasted to oblivion... #75!

      Is there some kind of landmine one could step on that would cause that? All the other terms are fine.Nothing on the page changed since it first went up two months ago.

      Thanks!

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      • MarieHaynes
        MarieHaynes last edited by

        Occasionally I've had this happen to me and then a few days later my keyword jumps up to even higher than it was before.  It's happened enough times that when I see a keyword drop a lot I get excited because often it pops back up as #1-3.

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        • SteveOllington
          SteveOllington last edited by

          Same, give it two weeks and it'll probably be back with a vengeance... if not then I have no idea. I do wonder what in the algo could cause that and whether it would something something put in intentionally. If it's a side effect of something, what could be the purpose of that something. Oh dark and mysterious Google, why do you play with our minds this way.

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          • aarondicks
            aarondicks last edited by

            As Dunamis has said, these things sometimes happen for various reasons (reasons that Google no doubt will never disclose). Keep checking on it manually and keep an eye on it. If the problem doesn't sort itself out within the next couple of days, then go through your recent link acquisitions to try to find the cause!

            Regards

            Aaron

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            • MarieHaynes
              MarieHaynes @SteveOllington last edited by

              I could see a method in this madness.  Perhaps Google is saying, "OK...we think that this result should be higher in the SERPS.  But just to make sure that another one is not more worthy, let's take it away for a few days and see which result most people click on."

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              • 94501
                94501 @MarieHaynes last edited by

                Well, golly, that's incredibly hopeful! Thanks for weighing-in. I agree and at the same time it makes me wonder why the roller-coaster drop before improvement? This term is actually one that I felt very upbeat about it's steady progress. Weird.It's almost Google-sadism.

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                • 94501
                  94501 last edited by

                  It reminds me of taking the kids to the Pediatrician. "Yeah, that happens alot. If it doesn't clear up in a week, bring em back in and we'll have another look."

                  Thanks for all the really helpful answers Dunamis, Steve and Aaron!

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                  • Thos003
                    Thos003 last edited by

                    I have also seen this happen. It seems to happen more often when we are pushing a little harder on a keyword phrase. I wouldn't change anything you are doing. Keep a steady pace and it should spring back up.  Kinda feels like a roulette ball, bouncing around right before it settles in.  COME ON NUMBER #1!!!

                    Good luck. 😃

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                    • 94501
                      94501 @Thos003 last edited by

                      "Roulette..."Funny and thanks

                      I'll post back here if moves. Thanks...!

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                      • AlanBleiweiss
                        AlanBleiweiss last edited by

                        If it does NOT bounce back, check to see if you've got too many inbound links targeting the phrase in question.  I've seen a site get surgically whacked this way.  Fortunately the site owner controlled many of the source sites and as soon as they changed those anchors, they bounced back.

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                        • 94501
                          94501 @AlanBleiweiss last edited by

                          Good tip. Will definitely keep that in mind. Thanks!

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                          • inhouseninja
                            inhouseninja @AlanBleiweiss last edited by

                            Alan, why woudl too many inbound links targeting the phrase in question be a problem?  I thought inbound links with the anchor text you are targetting is what you should be doing?  Thanks!

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                            • inhouseninja
                              inhouseninja last edited by

                              I've had the same thing – an important keyword for an important page, that was getting up to around 30-35 place in google and I thought would go higher - all of a sudden, baam - off the charts and can't even find it listed at all!  Nowhere to be seen, not even in top 100 when I do a private browser search.

                              All other pages on the site have been steady, and / or inching up.

                              I did 301 some broken links from various pages I found in open site explorer to this page around this time, so might that have caused it??  Only about 20 or so, and the links were all related somewhat to the page, so I thought doing that would be the best thing - but now I think  I might have messed up...

                              Should I do a re-consideration request to Google - can you do this for just 1 page?    As I say, all other pages seem fine.

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                              • SteveOllington
                                SteveOllington @inhouseninja last edited by

                                It raises a big red flag for black hat link building/spamming.... in other words it looks totally unnatural to the search engines. If you had links grow naturally they would have a range of words such as the domain name, the company name, words like "view site here", etc... as well as variations of keywords that are relevant.

                                If you've got a high percentage of keyworded anchor text links that are all the same, you didn't get them naturally, you built them trying to rank for that word 😜

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                                • 94501
                                  94501 @inhouseninja last edited by

                                  Good question. I guess my follow-up on that is; "too many" as a percentage of the links to the page. This page has maybe 6 links, 4 of them with the anchor text. Is that too many? There could be a press release that added to that number, but not sure where all that might be posted. Hmm... Open Site Explorer has picked up zero links to the page after almost two months.

                                  It also sort of seems like a potential SEO weapon, like if you were mean-spirited and wanted to hurt a competitor's rank, just blast out a ton of targeted links.

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                                  • AlanBleiweiss
                                    AlanBleiweiss @inhouseninja last edited by

                                    It's highly doubtful that just six links trigger the slap.  In the situation with my client, it was thousands.  So it'll be interesting to learn if this one bounces back or not, or if something else is the cause.

                                    As for why Google would slap for over-saturation of a particular phrase, I believe it was at SMX Advanced last year when I recall Matt Cutts stating that Google was working on surgical implementation rather than broad entire-site impact.

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                                    • inhouseninja
                                      inhouseninja last edited by

                                      Incidentally  - the page I am trying to rank for is still appearing for another key word phrase - it’s just for the main keyword phrase that it has disappeared out of Google!  But for another related key phrase the page is at number 2!

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                                      • 94501
                                        94501 last edited by

                                        Here's an update. These serps are 1 or two days apart: 11 75 63 33 So, it may have swung around past the dark side of the Moon and be on a trajectory to re-enter Earth's orbit.

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                                        • MarieHaynes
                                          MarieHaynes @94501 last edited by

                                          Yay!  Let's hope it keeps going!

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                                          • Thos003
                                            Thos003 @MarieHaynes last edited by

                                            That would seem like the thought process... but dropping it from 11 to 13 would still give them a comparison.  But hey, we are playing in their sandbox so they make the rules.

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