The Moz Q&A Forum

    • Forum
    • Questions
    • My Q&A
    • Users
    • Ask the Community

    Welcome to the Q&A Forum

    Browse the forum for helpful insights and fresh discussions about all things SEO.

    1. SEO and Digital Marketing Q&A Forum
    2. Categories
    3. Moz Tools
    4. Where is the keyword difficulty tool data sourced from?

    Where is the keyword difficulty tool data sourced from?

    Moz Tools
    6 3 1.0k
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as question
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • ZakGottlieb71
      ZakGottlieb71 last edited by

      I also use Market Samurai, and I've noticed what seem to be big discrepancies with the keyword data presented by this (data comes from Majestic SEO) and the Keyword Difficulty Tool.

      To take just one example, I analyze the term "how to remove tea stains" In the Keyword Difficulty Tool, this returns the following:

      Root Domain Linking Root Domains: 2,233

      Page Linking Root Domains: 4

      When I use Market Samurai, however, the data returned is:

      RDD (Domains linking to this domain): 19,911

      RDP (Domains linking to this page): 19

      I thought that these two metrics were the same for both tools, but I've written them out in case someone sees a difference. As I say, Market Samurai data is sourced from Majestic SEO - a reputable SEO company - but I have no idea where the Keyword Difficulty Tool data is from, nor why these differences are so pronounced? Are they indeed the same metrics in both cases, or am I missing something?

      Any insight would be much appreciated.

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • DanDeceuster
        DanDeceuster last edited by

        Any linking data presented by SEOMoz will be from their own Linkscape Index. This data is also presented at opensiteexplorer.org. If you see any SEOMoz tool showing links, linking domains or anything related to link metrics, that data comes from their proprietary Linkscape Index.

        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 2
        • Cyrus-Shepard
          Cyrus-Shepard last edited by

          Daniel gave the correct answer, all SEOmoz link metrics come from the Linkscape index. This is the same data found in Open Site Explorer, the API, the MozBar, SEOmoz PRO platform and all other SEOmoz tools.

          All indexes (including Google, Yahoo, and Linkscape) count links differently. The vast majority of links on the web are "junk" that quickly disappeer and count very little or none at all for SEO purposes, so a big part of the Linkscape Index is an iterative process of "cleaning" and verifying the links before the Index is published every few weeks.

          This difficulty was highlighted by our friends at Majestic when they wrote a guest post for the SEOmoz blog on Why Counting Links is not So Easy.

          Regarding the Keyword Difficulty Tool, link metrics are only one part of a larger formula for calculating difficulty. Because all queries use the same Linkscape data to calculate difficulty, the score is relative so changes in link counts generally don't become a factor.

          ZakGottlieb71 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
          • ZakGottlieb71
            ZakGottlieb71 @Cyrus-Shepard last edited by

            Hi Cyrus,

            Thanks for this. I understand that counting links accurately is hard work, but if I am take this correctly, the above metrics are identical for SEOMoz and Majestic, which is a real head-scratcher, since it would suggest an enormous discrepancy in the data being presented, for almost every keyword link I have tested this on. To take just one other (basically random) example: "how to remove rust stains"

            8th down in the first SERP is:

            http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/la/how-to-remove-rust-stains-from-stainless-steel-home-hacks-108429

            Which returns either THIS data (Linkscape):

            Root Linking Root Domains  (total # of unique domains with backlinks pointing to this specific domain?): 15,471

            Page Linking Root Domains (total # of unique domains with backlinks pointing to this page?): 91

            Or this data (Majestic):

            RDD (same definition as RLRD, above): 71, 152

            RDP (same definition as for PLRD, above): 6

            I encourage you to register for Majestic's services and try this out for yourself if this is news to you. In default of further knowledge of the specific methodologies used by these two different link-measuring tools,  if one were otherwise to consider them both equal, I don't see how any use could be made of this data, since it is so vastly different in each case? I still can't help feeling that I'm missing something...

            Thank you again for your input on this - it's much appreciated.

            Best,

            Zak

            Cyrus-Shepard ZakGottlieb71 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • Cyrus-Shepard
              Cyrus-Shepard @ZakGottlieb71 last edited by

              Yes, there is a discrepancy between all indexes on link counts, even though everyone might agree on the definition. But this doesn't mean one is right and one is wrong.

              Counting links is like counting cats in Schrödinger's box. It changes depending on how you look at it... even though we all agree on the definition of a cat.

              Using the same definitions as you described above, if you were to look at Google's index you would arrive at a number higher than this, and using Bing's index perhaps a number somewhere in the middle.

              For example, consider that 50% of the web disappears every year, which means around 4% of all the links on the Internet disappear every month. But what if your crawlers only visit those links every 60 days? (this is an extreme example)

              Or the fact that 80% of the web is spam that shouldn't be crawled. Depending on your definition of spam/trust, different crawlers will crawl different websites and arrive at different link counts, even though they are using the exact same definition of a link.

              The important thing to remember is this - raw link counts are hardly ever useful. What is important is finding the links that matter. That's why using metrics such as Domain and Page Authority become increasingly important. 10 links can be more important that 10 million links, if they are the right ones.

              That said, metrics like # of linking root domains do play a significant role in corollary ranking factors.

              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • ZakGottlieb71
                ZakGottlieb71 @ZakGottlieb71 last edited by

                Ok, thanks. I get the overall point you're making, and will indeed focus more on link quality... I guess my gripe is that if the # of linking root domains (for example) are to be counted at ALL - even as a corollary ranking factor - then it would be really good to be sure of the accuracy of the data, which it's hard to be when Majestic, for example, presents such different numbers in each case.

                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                • 1 / 1
                • First post
                  Last post
                • Can I export data from Keyword Difficulty on several keywords?
                  SamWeber
                  SamWeber
                  0
                  2
                  75

                • Keyword Difficulty Tool not working!
                  ChiarynMiranda
                  ChiarynMiranda
                  1
                  21
                  1.2k

                • Keyword Difficulty Tool not working?
                  KeriMorgret
                  KeriMorgret
                  2
                  22
                  1.4k

                • Difference in data between http://pro.seomoz.org/tools/keyword-difficulty and http://lsapi.seomoz.com/linkscape/url-metrics/
                  claytons
                  claytons
                  0
                  3
                  507

                • Keyword Difficulty Tool
                  wojkwasi
                  wojkwasi
                  0
                  2
                  685

                • Keyword tool: SEOMOZ spacific month ? vs adword tool 12 month average but same data ???
                  kenneth_martin
                  kenneth_martin
                  0
                  3
                  715

                • SEOmoz keyword difficulty tool
                  neooptic
                  neooptic
                  0
                  3
                  520

                • How many keywords can I look at at once in keyword difficulty tool?
                  insitegoogle
                  insitegoogle
                  0
                  4
                  804

                Get started with Moz Pro!

                Unlock the power of advanced SEO tools and data-driven insights.

                Start my free trial
                Products
                • Moz Pro
                • Moz Local
                • Moz API
                • Moz Data
                • STAT
                • Product Updates
                Moz Solutions
                • SMB Solutions
                • Agency Solutions
                • Enterprise Solutions
                • Digital Marketers
                Free SEO Tools
                • Domain Authority Checker
                • Link Explorer
                • Keyword Explorer
                • Competitive Research
                • Brand Authority Checker
                • Local Citation Checker
                • MozBar Extension
                • MozCast
                Resources
                • Blog
                • SEO Learning Center
                • Help Hub
                • Beginner's Guide to SEO
                • How-to Guides
                • Moz Academy
                • API Docs
                About Moz
                • About
                • Team
                • Careers
                • Contact
                Why Moz
                • Case Studies
                • Testimonials
                Get Involved
                • Become an Affiliate
                • MozCon
                • Webinars
                • Practical Marketer Series
                • MozPod
                Connect with us

                Contact the Help team

                Join our newsletter
                Moz logo
                © 2021 - 2026 SEOMoz, Inc., a Ziff Davis company. All rights reserved. Moz is a registered trademark of SEOMoz, Inc.
                • Accessibility
                • Terms of Use
                • Privacy