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    • Wayne76
      Wayne76 last edited by

      Hey Ryan... just a quick niblet of advice I wanted to share after reading your post: Don't get too hung up on your or anyone else's PR. It's a much better practice to study the backlinks on any given site. You want to be sure that sites you are approaching for links aren't harboring spammy links, or attracting bad neighborhoods.  Sometimes a site might have a robust PR, but it's link profile is a horror show!

      PR can be a bit of a mirage in many instances. So be careful!

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      • Sangeeta
        Sangeeta last edited by

        Have you tried adding product videos and building links via those videos. These videos especially if they are done in a fun way are more likely to be shared on the social media. Just be share to get the video tags and description right!

        Currently, probably the sites linking back to you are low in value and hence there is no positive movement for the keywords.

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        • JasonJackson
          JasonJackson @chrisfree last edited by

          @Kacker I LOVE YOU!  you just made my life so much easier

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          • aarondicks
            aarondicks @chrisfree last edited by

            Great suggestion, I do this, but then through Extension Manager enable toe SEOmoz Toolbar for the quick links to OSE and the metrics 😛

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            • aarondicks
              aarondicks last edited by

              Continue to push! Link building isn't easy! Vary your linking techniques, and keep monitoring your progress through software, be it a Spreadsheet or Pro SEOmoz!

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              • BlastAM
                BlastAM @chrisfree last edited by

                You should also be aware that Google automatically adjusts your search results to your location.  You will see your current location it chose for you (even if you are not logged in) on the left column.  You can easily change your location to other areas to see if your rankings are the same for other areas.  This is extremely useful if your client has a chain of stores in different locations and you want to see the rankings for each city.

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                • EGOL
                  EGOL last edited by

                  "Kitchen Appliances.....  the keyword is extremely competitive.... doing this for around 3 months....  the site is a page rank 2 BTW)... "

                  This is like attacking the US Navy with a slingshot.

                  Your competitors, have been out there working (with teams of expert people) for the past ten years and some of them are billion dollar brand names, so it is unlikely that a one-man-band is going to get traction in a couple of months.

                  I think that you need to ask yourself if you have the resources to compete for fast results in this niche.  I don't think that submitting stuff to article sites is going to be competitive.

                  Consider making a detailed plan with best-on-the-web content that will enable you to penetrate a specific niche in this broad market.

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                  • Getz.pro
                    Getz.pro last edited by

                    You really took on the big one huh? This would be a good case to use PPC until you build enough authority to rank. Without actually seeing your efforts, you seem to be doing the right things so time against the 700lb websites is what you need. Time to keep doing what you are doing.

                    Social networking might give you a quick let up if you can generate some buzz on Facebook, Twitter, Yelp, etc. Find creative ways to market in those niches until you can rank better. I just purchased skydiving tickets through Yelp from their email list.

                    Keep doing what you are doing, and work the other marketing avenues also.

                    I hope that helped

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                    • Marcus_Miller
                      Marcus_Miller last edited by

                      Whilst this is one hell of a keyword to go after if you have nothing in the first 300 results then there is a chance that you have some kind of penalty or possibly a filter pushing you down the ranks. If it is an ecommerce store and it is using the standard product descriptions which are on several other sites all your efforts may be wasted.

                      Here is a few things to try:

                      1. Take some snippets of text from various pages and google them in double quotes. If you get lots of other pages returned and not yours at all, then you have a major problem. If you are returned but just below some other pages then you are likely filtered to some extent as there is nothing unique there.

                      2. Google some exact title tags and see what is returned. Again, if you don't come up or you come up below other results that are not crazy relevant then you have a problem.

                      As ever, it's really hard without seeing a URL and you are going after a really general and popular search term that probably converts quite poorly anyway.

                      You can test the value of this term for your client with some paid search, get 500 clicks to the homepage which I guess is what you are targeting, see how many conversions you generate from that, if it's low, then you maybe wasting your time as top 10 results may be a long way off so you are picking up scraps.

                      You are probably better off working around the edges and going after some more specific phrases and concentrating on building some content that is useful to the target audience to bring in links & visitors. Combine that with some other marketing activities (social, email list, offline etc) and you should slowly be able to build and reinvest in the site.

                      Hope it helps, no easy answers I am afraid!
                      Marcus

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                      • KeriMorgret
                        KeriMorgret last edited by

                        Ryan, were any of these answers a "helpful answer" for you? Do you have further questions? How are things now that you've had some more time with this client?

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                        • Gaveltek-173238
                          Gaveltek-173238 @chrisfree last edited by

                          This blog answers that question, barely 😉 http://gaveltek.com/seoblog/seo/ranking-serp’s-finding-me-experiments-explanations-gaveltek-start-adequately-marketing-web-brand/

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                          • Gaveltek-173238
                            Gaveltek-173238 last edited by

                            It would seem everyone has a similar theme... "Keep pushing on" with the tools available to you on the SEOMOZ site you can quantify any data that is returned. That being said, try long tail keywords such as:

                            kitchen stoves (brand)

                            Kitchen equipment (brand)

                            through the use of good titles and descriptions ( non one cares about meta keywords) you will win. Regarding your linkbuilding, you heart is in the right place, but place your inbound links in more natural places like well ranked blogs, or industry specific review sites. Review sites could really lend a hand in getting your keyword issue licked. Remember, seo is a marathon, not a sprint.  Feel free to contact me, I am always happy to offer reports, etc... to those in need. WE are a community that supports our own.

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                            • jaraca
                              jaraca last edited by

                              I learned a lot with these answers. I consider they are very interesting.
                              Thank you all for the comments.

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                              • Sjani11
                                Sjani11 last edited by

                                Still in 2020, we are facing the same issue. I have a charcoal Grill reviews blog that is facing the ranking issues.

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