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    • seoanalytics
      seoanalytics last edited by

      Thank you for the explanation. Do the words need to be in the same sentence or can they be spread out across the page ?

      I guess across the page to make it fluid ?

      Ok 3 more after that 🙂 i got to finish y site before christmas and only got 24 hours so you almost on vacation 🙂

      Can having a related keyword in a title tag increase ranking ?

      What about if I fulfill the user intend in the title tag with a related keyword is it even better ?

      Is using h2 tags to put your related keywords a good practice that can help the ranking ?

      Thank you,

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      • Nigel_Carr
        Nigel_Carr @seoanalytics last edited by

        OK 🙂

        Yes, keep it fluid, there is no need to group them together. Make it read naturally.

        The best way to format the Meta title tag is like this

        'Main Keyword - Related Keyword (or higher category) - Company Name' so

        'Piedmont Bike Tours - Cycling in Italy - Company Name' (keep under 60 characters)

        Meta description: Make this your call to action - it does not help SEO per se so don't fill it with keywords.

        'Book a thrilling bike tour of Piedmont in the sunny hills of Northern Italy - unbeatable prices from company name - call us on 12345678 or book online here!'

        Keep it under 140 characters or Google will add an ellipsis at the end ' ...'

        The H1 does not help SEO on its own, only part of the keyword density on the page. It should sit at the top of the page and contain the keyword:

        Piedmont Bike Tours

        The H2 does not help SEO per se but is useful for breaking up the content on the page. It is usually only used to divide content - so if you do use it make sure that you follow it with a few paragraphs. Some people advocate a minimum of 300 but it, not the number, rather the way it's written. Don't overdo the keyword, think semantically.

        eg:

        Cycle Tours In Barolo

        Keep it natural - I can't advocate that enough.

        Regards

        Nigel

        PS when I say 'per se' I mean 'directly' - of course, a well-written description with strong headings will cause people to visit the pages and take action - the interaction through lower bounce rate and less pogo-sticking is good for SEO, obviously.

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        • seoanalytics
          seoanalytics last edited by

          For the H1 if I can make a sentence out of it with the keyword I guess that is even better ? isn't it ?

          For the H2 is it ok if one of the h2 I use is in the list of related keywords that the moz keyword tool gives for example "Piedmont hotels"

          That is why I was asking if it was helping because my guess is that if one of the H2 is a related keyword that can only be beneficial.

          I guess it can also be used to break the content into multipe topics. For example I could talk about "Barolo wines" on a page about bike tours in Piedmont as well "Barbaresco wines"and then have those as H2 ?

          Thank you,

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          • Nigel_Carr
            Nigel_Carr @seoanalytics last edited by

            H1's are not for sentences, they are punchy headers incorporating the main keyword, designed to catch the eye.

            H2 - yes exactly

            Barolo Wines - Exactly right.

            Get some images, named as the subject with alt tags in there as well.

            Regards

            Nigel

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            • seoanalytics
              seoanalytics last edited by

              Cool that confirms my understanding, related keywords are one thing but to be more comprehensive adding related topics is also a good thing. Correct ?

              For the images, what do you mean by named as the subject with alt tags ? Do you mean that the images should have alt tags with related keywords in it ?

              Have a great evening,

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              • Nigel_Carr
                Nigel_Carr @seoanalytics last edited by

                Yes but not too wide related topics. If it's too far away then make a separate page!

                You need one image named with the focus keyword - 'Piedmont Bike Tours' so instead of saving it as eg DSC168541 - straight from the camera, name the image 'piedmont bike tours' so its URL will be site.com/piedmont-bike-tours.jpg. Make sure it is no bigger than say, 75k to keep page speed up.

                Then make the alt tag of the image 'Piedmont Bike Tours'

                Other images must be named in this way.

                the alt is like this

                piedmont bike tours

                Keep the alts short & descriptive.

                eg 'Barolo Wine'

                etc

                Regards

                Nigel

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                • seoanalytics
                  seoanalytics last edited by

                  Thank you for the clarification. I think I am all good and can't wait to see the results.

                  Have a wonderful christmas,

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                  • seoanalytics
                    seoanalytics last edited by

                    The night got me thinking 🙂

                    In my introducation about Piedmont should I only have Piedmont bike tour and LSI keywords related to piedmont bike tour or can I also include related topics like Barolo and Barbaresco or is it better to included those related topics into my highlights for example and not mix it in the introduction.

                    Thank you,

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                    • Nigel_Carr
                      Nigel_Carr @seoanalytics last edited by

                      Frankly I would stick to Piedmont Bike Tours. It's no problem mentioning Barolo and Barbaresco in the text but once you start adding headings you are diluting the thrust of the page.

                      LSI keywords are a bit if misnomer but loosely they are semantically connected words and phrases - similar are produced by MOZ with monthly search volumes. There is a free tool that just spits them out. I think you have more than enough sources for these as you are in the industry - just don't think you need to stuff them all in. Remain focused.

                      You need to think about words like 'best' 'easiest' 'scenic' and other terms people may type in.

                      Regards

                      Nigel

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                      • seoanalytics
                        seoanalytics last edited by

                        So you wouldn't worry about adding related topics, you would just stick to lsi keywords for Piedmont bike tours ?

                        My question is why do companies like marketmuse.com propose to use related topics ?

                        Thank you,

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                        • Nigel_Carr
                          Nigel_Carr @seoanalytics last edited by

                          You're selling Bike Tours in Piedmont and whilst it is no problem mentioning related topics the more you write about related items and less about the core topic the more you dilute your page.

                          The more people you listen to with conflicting/nuanced views, the more stressful and ultimately impossible it is to finish the job in hand.

                          Write the page - watch the ranking - adjust as necessary!

                          You aren't going to be criticised as you have taken great advice and you are going to write a top ranking page.

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                          • seoanalytics
                            seoanalytics last edited by

                            I will stick to Piedmont in that case as much as I can and adjust as ncessary. How long should I wait "approximatly " to see some results ?

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                            • Nigel_Carr
                              Nigel_Carr @seoanalytics last edited by

                              It depends on a lot of factors - the most relevant one is the frequency of site crawl. Some pages can take 6 weeks - search for the page in Google and hit the down arrow to check the last time it was cached.

                              Fetch Google in search console as this can speed things up.

                              If it's a brand new site it can take a while!

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                              • seoanalytics
                                seoanalytics last edited by

                                Mine is cached about every week so I guess it should be pretty quick to see the 1 st results and then I should see a graduale climb over the course of a few more weeks, shouldn't I ?

                                Concerning the related keywords I noticed that it sometimes gives me words that have plurals such as "Cycling tours in Piedmont" and I want to use  this expression an h2 on my Italy page can I write "Cycling tour in Piedmont" removing the S as I only have one tour or can it hurt to remove the plural ?

                                In my introduction about Piedmont bike tours I have about 150 words. How many times should I include the exact expression " Piedmont bike tours" and then how many times the related keywords ? (approximately)

                                Thank you and then you are on vacation 🙂

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                                • Nigel_Carr
                                  Nigel_Carr @seoanalytics last edited by

                                  Hi seoanalytics

                                  Most people don't bother with the plural problem but I always use plurals when I think the customer will type that in preference to the singular. Seach results always differ (just type in 'bike') so it is important.

                                  For me, Piedmont Bike Tours wins every time because that is what people will type in - regardless of the fact you only have one.

                                  How many times? - once! - you will have an H1 which will say it and close semantics, so 'trail biking' etc so don't overdo it - even if you are writing 1000 words I would still only say that max, twice. Then let the baby anchors do their work.

                                  Best of luck. If your site is updated then you will see an improvement right quickly - in my experience, you will see a bump then a drop back so don't be alarmed when this happend.

                                  Cheers - have a great holiday! I'm off to the pub 🙂

                                  Nigel

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                                  • seoanalytics
                                    seoanalytics last edited by

                                    Thank you and have a wonderful christmas.

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                                    • seoanalytics
                                      seoanalytics last edited by

                                      Hey Nigel,

                                      I hope you had a good holiday. I am back in the office and got a few more questions as some things got me confused during vacation.

                                      I am confused with the difference between synonyms, lsi, semanticaly related keyword and topic...

                                      From what I understand a synoym of Piedmont bike tours is Piedmont cycling holiday and in order not to repeat Piedmont bike tours I need to use synonyms in my content ? correct ?

                                      Then keyword explorer is giving me other words like cycling routes, northern italy bike tours, wineries, vineyards, bike trails, when I type in my keyword Piedmont bike tours, what are those words ? are those also synonyms that I need to include or are they semantically related keyword to the phrase Piedmont bike tours ?

                                      How to include them ? do they need to be subjects in my sentences or can it just be words that I peper in my content  ?

                                      Finally, what about related topics what do I do with those ?

                                      Sorry for all the confusion and thank you,

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                                      • Nigel_Carr
                                        Nigel_Carr @seoanalytics last edited by

                                        Hi seoanalytics

                                        Lexical semantics and synonyms are similar in that, whilst a synonym is one word which can be substituted for another - Bike / Bicycle - Lexical semantics deals with the meaning of the word or phrase.

                                        A bike or a bicycle is a machine for conveying a person from one destination to another. The meaning of the word is that it is a self-propelled mode of transport. A synonym of a bike is simply 'a bicycle' - no need for any explanation.

                                        LSI or latent semantic indexing is an old acronym that really shouldn't be used in relation to modern semantics. It was originally used in the 80's as a way of indexing complex information. A form of data retrieval - most high-level SEOs completely poo poo its use these days so it's best to ignore LSIs and focus on the concept of semantics in its true sense.

                                        I think the danger here is that you risk getting bogged down in the subject and over optimising your page. The essence of great writing can be lost in a desire to fill the page with every conceivable permutation of synonym and lexically connected words and phrases. In doing so you risk either over stuffing or getting it wrong. Worse still, spending just too much damn time on it!

                                        The topic is the place to start as that is the highest level. So the topic, for example, is Bike Tours In Piedmont.

                                        Synonyms can simply include the words Bicycle as opposed to Bike and for example Routes and Trails.

                                        Semantics are the wider meaning - so 'Biking through Italy'

                                        In my reply on Dec 22 I said that you must focus on 'what people might type in' and what you are seeing in the Google suggestion tool and the related searches at the bottom are firstly the most common words and phrases typed in and secondly what Google believes are closely related searches.

                                        Like I have said all along - don't get too bogged down in this - the knowledge you have learned here is likely to be 100 times better than any other site competing with you - trust me! No one I have ever helped has gone into this subject as deeply as you!   So you will be miles ahead!

                                        Related topics are separate pages - don't mix them up. It's very much in the writing of the sentences so when I use the word 'pepper' this means intertwining or 'sprinkling' it into your content.

                                        Finally, if someone bangs on about LSIs then ignore them as they do not know what they are talking about. Too little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

                                        Regards

                                        Nigel

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                                        • seoanalytics
                                          seoanalytics last edited by

                                          Hi Nigel,

                                          Thank you for your reply. I know I ask a lot of question and know I am in the right direction as I already saw some results but not all my pages so I am trying to figure out what I did wrong on the pages that didn't climb 🙂

                                          To summarize when into the keyword explorer I enter my keyword let's take "alsace bike tours" as an example and the keyword explorer is giving me "alsace region" with a good relevancy, what do I need to do it ?

                                          Write a sentence with alsace region in it (Ibecause from what I understand it is a a word that is semantically related to my keyword but not a synonym), correct ? and then I need to explain alsace region with "secondary related " keywords, saying for example: The Alsace region is in the north east of France and it borders Germany.

                                          Then, I need to do this process for all the words that keyword explorer gives me for my main keyword ?

                                          Concerning routes and trails that you mention are those synonyms what you consider synonyms of tours ?

                                          Thank you,

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                                          • Nigel_Carr
                                            Nigel_Carr @seoanalytics last edited by

                                            Exactly!

                                            Yes the Topic will be 'Alsace Bike Tours'

                                            You will start the piece with:

                                            The Alsace region is in the northeast of France bordering Germany...

                                            Then go on to describe it in a little detail - is it mountainous, very flat, hills, mud tarmac/concrete ...etc...)

                                            Then describe the tours themselves in greater detail.

                                            I think routes, tours and trails fall very close to each other - all three are semantically related if not close synonyms! 🙂

                                            Regards

                                            Nigel

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