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    Keyword Explorer is Now Live; Ask Me Anything About It!

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    • randfish
      randfish @K3v1n last edited by

      Hi Kev - yeah, totally agree that we need to make that more clear. We'll get to work on that asap.

      And yes - Potential takes into account whatever metrics it can; when those are absent (like volume), it uses a low volume bucket (I think 0-10) so as not to overstate. Often when we don't have volume, it's either a very new keyword or a very uncommon one.

      And yeah - we don't cover the UK yet, but hope to in the future.

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      • K3v1n
        K3v1n @randfish last edited by

        Brilliant, thanks Rand 🙂

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        • Gyorgy.B
          Gyorgy.B @randfish last edited by

          Hi Rand

          What can non-US Moz customers use until you add UK or AU search volumes? We use the keyword difficulty tool's score and search volume reports quite often.

          Would you keep the keyword difficulty tool live until you fix the keyword explorer's search volume?

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          • randfish
            randfish @Gyorgy.B last edited by

            Hi Gyorgy - you can use the old KW Difficulty tool, but the search volumes there aren't accurate for non-US either, and the difficulty scores are less accurate, too. I'd suggest using KW Explorer if you want all the other scores (those are accurate) and AdWords KW Planner in the meantime.

            We're prioritizing UK, Canada, and Australia volume data very soon - hopefully will be in the product in the next 60 days.

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            • Gyorgy.B
              Gyorgy.B @randfish last edited by

              Perfect, I can survive that. Thank you!

              PS: the kw difficulty search volume is closer to AdWords than the explorer's US search volume. In a Q&A post I mentioned a head term search volume which has 6-9k searches in AdWords and the kw difficulty tool but 118-300k in kw explorer

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              • randfish
                randfish @Gyorgy.B last edited by

                Yeah - some important things to keep in mind about volume in KWE:

                1. It uses United States volume only right now (if you search by default in AdWords, you may be getting global search volume unless you choose "US")

                2. It's modifying that data with actual clickstream numbers to give greater accuracy

                3. It normalizes trend volume, so if Google has a big spike or dip, they'll show that one number, whereas KWE tries to estimate the monthly average data.

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                • chrwald
                  chrwald last edited by

                  Hey Rand,

                  from your blogpost regarding the launch of keyword explorer I got, that you guys are planing to retire the old keyword-diffuculty tool in favor of the new kw-explorer. On the other hand it is stated in that post and here as well, that the new explorer is - and for at least some more month will be - US and english language-centric.

                  After fiddling with it for a while I get more then > 90% "no data" for volume and many of the new difficulty scores don't make much sense to me (e.g. difficulty scores of < 5 for terms that got a score over >40 in the old tool).

                  That leads me to two questions:

                  • If the new tool is more precise than the old one and the differences in scores are that big: Was it either a terrible idea to use the old scores for decission making in the first place? Or could it be, that the new tool has still some difficulties when it comes to non-english languages or non-us-searches?

                  • Related to this: Why retire the old tool so quick if the new one is not an adequate alternative for folks like me yet?

                  Thanks, Christian

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                  • randfish
                    randfish @chrwald last edited by

                    Hi Christian - can you send over some examples of Difficulty scores that were 40+ and are now <5. That seems very fishy and we can look into it.

                    In general, the new tool should be vastly more accurate and useful than the old one. Volume data in the old KW Difficulty tool comes from Grepwords, which we'll be using for non-US volume in the new tool as well, hopefully very soon, so you should see that fixed before the old KW Difficulty disappears.

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                    • chrwald
                      chrwald @randfish last edited by

                      Hi Rand,

                      thank you for the quick reply. After looking into the data again, it seems like I have exaggerated a tiny bit. Here are some examples. One of them is old kwd 38, new kwd 4, another one is old kwd 46, new kwd 6. Technically not "40+ to <5" but pretty close and bad enough.

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                      • randfish
                        randfish @chrwald last edited by

                        Thanks @Chrwald - I'm going to ask Dr. Pete to take a look at these.

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                        • Dr-Pete
                          Dr-Pete @randfish last edited by

                          The new Difficulty score gets pretty aggressively scaled, because we found that the distribution of PA/DA was bunching up a bit, and fell almost entirely in the 25-85 range (looking across an entire SERP). So, a 25 gets scaled down to nearly zero, to give the new metric more granularity.

                          It looks like the CTR-adjusted PA for "Naturmode" on Google.de (for example) is right around 26, so it may be that the PAs have gone down a bit over time as well. Even by the non-weighted metric, I'd expect that to be a solid 10 points lower than the old difficulty score.

                          We're going to dig in and try to find out if the rescaling is too aggressive, once we have more data from real-world KWE usage. In general, though, you're going to see a bigger range of difficulty scores with the new metric. It's pretty tough to meaningfully compare the old and new scores.

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                          • SureFire
                            SureFire last edited by

                            Hi Rand

                            Love the new KE tool! Great job.

                            I'm in New Zealand and like others out of the States I also found myself puzzled by the keyword volume estimate, but makes sense now you've clarified these are currently US volumes.

                            Can you please confirm that, whilst we should ignore the keyword volume estimates for non-US markets, the difficulty and opportunity scores are still applicable outside the US?

                            Cheers, Mark

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                            • randfish
                              randfish @SureFire last edited by

                              Hi Mark - yes! If you're using the New Zealand select in the drop down for engines, those other scores should be accurate.

                              Cheers!

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                              • Krithikam
                                Krithikam @randfish last edited by

                                how to see the organic keywords that a website uses?

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                                • randfish
                                  randfish @Krithikam last edited by

                                  Unfortuntately, we don't have this feature yet in KW Explorer, but you can get it at SEMRush, Spyfu, Keycompete, Searchmetrics, and others. We hope to have this ability in the future.

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                                  • bhsiao
                                    bhsiao last edited by

                                    I love the keyword tool for giving me direction and helping to prioritize. My question:

                                    Once I have the prioritized keywords, do you recommend having a page for each of the top keywords, using the keyword as the page name? Or is it better to sprinkle the keywords into existing pages?

                                    Thank you.

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                                    • Page1SEO
                                      Page1SEO @randfish last edited by

                                      Hi Rand,

                                      With uploading keyword lists, does each keyword on the list count towards your 300 queries/month list? Ex: If I upload a list with 100 keywords on it, will I then only have 200 queries left for the month? Or is it 300 independent queries, and 3 lists regardless of size?

                                      Thanks!

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                                      • randfish
                                        randfish @Page1SEO last edited by

                                        Each keyword you add to a list does count toward the 300 limit (or whatever limit your account has). That's because for each, we need to do a SERP crawl to get the metrics and analysis.

                                        If you upload a list with 100 keywords, we'll do a data fetch for each, and you'll have 200 queries remaining for the month.

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                                        • Sigma_Digital
                                          Sigma_Digital last edited by

                                          Really loving the new tool, I have created keyword groups but I would like to know the accuracy especially in the UK.

                                          When setting up a campaign there are options to monitor Google GB & Google UK, would using one or the other, or even both give different results for keywords?

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                                          • randfish
                                            randfish @Sigma_Digital last edited by

                                            Hi - thanks! Glad to hear it. As far as accuracy in the UK - the SERP data is accurate, but volume is still US-centric until we make some updates. Those should be happening relatively soon (next few months).

                                            As far as UK vs. GB, I believe the rankings can be slightly different.

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