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    Keyword Explorer is Now Live; Ask Me Anything About It!

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    • randfish
      randfish @Charles-O last edited by

      If my schedule allows it, I'd be happy to present. I typically fill up ~1 year in advance these days (crazy, I know), but if you have 2017 plans, hit me up! rand@moz.com.

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      • dsexton10
        dsexton10 last edited by

        I am excited to use the new Keyword Explorer for a Maine law firm. My goal is to prioritize topics for the law firm blog. Example potential search phrases might be "Maine dog bite laws".  Obviously there  will be MUCH higher search volume
         on the keyword "dog bite laws" than for "Maine dog bite laws". Suppose the Keyword Explorer show the volume for "Maine dog bite laws" to be 10 and the search volume for "dog bite laws" to be 1000. Can I assume that the Google SERP for a search done in Maine  for "dog bite laws" will probably push web pages of domains with Maine on many pages higher in the SERP?

        in other words, if I create a quality, kick ass page about the TOPIC of Maine Dog bite laws, that Google will push up my  SERP position for searches done in Maine?  IN other words, as I do my analysis should I also  consider the search volume for my topic phrase without "Maine" in the search?

        thank. Well done on the new tool.  Also what is the time frame of the search volume? one month ?

        Dan

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        • randfish
          randfish @dsexton10 last edited by

          Hi Dan - yeah, I think what you're describing makes good sense. You can use the non-geo-specific term to get an idea of broad popularity and in most cases, you'll be able to rank well in your local geography (assuming Google thinks there's local intent) for the broader term with a page targeting the regional one.

          e.g. If I search for Patent Attorneys from my office (which is in Seattle), Google biases to show me patent attorneys who are in Seattle. Very similar to the results I get if I search Seattle Patent Attorneys (though some variation is always present).

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          • Gavo
            Gavo last edited by

            Loving this new Moz Tool!

            As a matter of convenience, it would be great to efficiently conduct a backlink analysis of competitors in the SERP Analysis to expediently check their link profile. Can moz link "Linking RDs To Root Domain" to its Open Explorer tool to open up in a new tab the backlink profile of that domain name that is listed in the top 10 organic results? That would be super convenient!

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            • randfish
              randfish @Gavo last edited by

              Totally agree. We're looking at making it more integrated with OSE very soon. Thanks Gavo!

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              • Tymen
                Tymen last edited by

                Hi Rand,

                In the Netherlands/ Belgium I get no data.. I understand Moz will expand this tool worldwide. Any idea when we can go nuts?

                Thanx in advance

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                • randfish
                  randfish @Tymen last edited by

                  It will likely be a few months at least before we can broaden outside the US, and maybe some more before we get to non-English languages. Sorry about that! We will get there; just need to do a lot of work to make it happen.

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                  • K3v1n
                    K3v1n last edited by

                    Wow this is amazing!! I was day dreaming a while ago about Moz creating a tool like this, you must have read my mind! 😉 Thank you for the 300 queries per month for legacy $99 members, much appreciated!

                    Just one bit of constructive feedback, I'm wondering if you should maybe make it more clear (maybe in the more info snippet) that volume is currently all US based? This did have me scratching my head a bit at first, as I'm UK based, and I'd just assumed that when I select UK, the volume would be UK, I realise now that this isn't yet the case.

                    With regard potential score, how is it able to determine the potential for anything other than US searches given that the volume will be incorrect for anything other than US, and I assume that volume is important when it comes to calculating potential?Also when there is no data for a keyword, how can there be a score for potential since the volume isn't known?

                    The only other bit of feedback is that there's a lot of "no data" for terms that I can see on my GA stats have hundreds of impressions per month. Is this just because the sites I work on are UK based and these terms probably don't have any searches in the US?

                    Thanks!

                    Kev

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                    • randfish
                      randfish @K3v1n last edited by

                      Hi Kev - yeah, totally agree that we need to make that more clear. We'll get to work on that asap.

                      And yes - Potential takes into account whatever metrics it can; when those are absent (like volume), it uses a low volume bucket (I think 0-10) so as not to overstate. Often when we don't have volume, it's either a very new keyword or a very uncommon one.

                      And yeah - we don't cover the UK yet, but hope to in the future.

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                      • K3v1n
                        K3v1n @randfish last edited by

                        Brilliant, thanks Rand 🙂

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                        • Gyorgy.B
                          Gyorgy.B @randfish last edited by

                          Hi Rand

                          What can non-US Moz customers use until you add UK or AU search volumes? We use the keyword difficulty tool's score and search volume reports quite often.

                          Would you keep the keyword difficulty tool live until you fix the keyword explorer's search volume?

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                          • randfish
                            randfish @Gyorgy.B last edited by

                            Hi Gyorgy - you can use the old KW Difficulty tool, but the search volumes there aren't accurate for non-US either, and the difficulty scores are less accurate, too. I'd suggest using KW Explorer if you want all the other scores (those are accurate) and AdWords KW Planner in the meantime.

                            We're prioritizing UK, Canada, and Australia volume data very soon - hopefully will be in the product in the next 60 days.

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                            • Gyorgy.B
                              Gyorgy.B @randfish last edited by

                              Perfect, I can survive that. Thank you!

                              PS: the kw difficulty search volume is closer to AdWords than the explorer's US search volume. In a Q&A post I mentioned a head term search volume which has 6-9k searches in AdWords and the kw difficulty tool but 118-300k in kw explorer

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                              • randfish
                                randfish @Gyorgy.B last edited by

                                Yeah - some important things to keep in mind about volume in KWE:

                                1. It uses United States volume only right now (if you search by default in AdWords, you may be getting global search volume unless you choose "US")

                                2. It's modifying that data with actual clickstream numbers to give greater accuracy

                                3. It normalizes trend volume, so if Google has a big spike or dip, they'll show that one number, whereas KWE tries to estimate the monthly average data.

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                                • chrwald
                                  chrwald last edited by

                                  Hey Rand,

                                  from your blogpost regarding the launch of keyword explorer I got, that you guys are planing to retire the old keyword-diffuculty tool in favor of the new kw-explorer. On the other hand it is stated in that post and here as well, that the new explorer is - and for at least some more month will be - US and english language-centric.

                                  After fiddling with it for a while I get more then > 90% "no data" for volume and many of the new difficulty scores don't make much sense to me (e.g. difficulty scores of < 5 for terms that got a score over >40 in the old tool).

                                  That leads me to two questions:

                                  • If the new tool is more precise than the old one and the differences in scores are that big: Was it either a terrible idea to use the old scores for decission making in the first place? Or could it be, that the new tool has still some difficulties when it comes to non-english languages or non-us-searches?

                                  • Related to this: Why retire the old tool so quick if the new one is not an adequate alternative for folks like me yet?

                                  Thanks, Christian

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                                  • randfish
                                    randfish @chrwald last edited by

                                    Hi Christian - can you send over some examples of Difficulty scores that were 40+ and are now <5. That seems very fishy and we can look into it.

                                    In general, the new tool should be vastly more accurate and useful than the old one. Volume data in the old KW Difficulty tool comes from Grepwords, which we'll be using for non-US volume in the new tool as well, hopefully very soon, so you should see that fixed before the old KW Difficulty disappears.

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                                    • chrwald
                                      chrwald @randfish last edited by

                                      Hi Rand,

                                      thank you for the quick reply. After looking into the data again, it seems like I have exaggerated a tiny bit. Here are some examples. One of them is old kwd 38, new kwd 4, another one is old kwd 46, new kwd 6. Technically not "40+ to <5" but pretty close and bad enough.

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                                      • randfish
                                        randfish @chrwald last edited by

                                        Thanks @Chrwald - I'm going to ask Dr. Pete to take a look at these.

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                                        • Dr-Pete
                                          Dr-Pete @randfish last edited by

                                          The new Difficulty score gets pretty aggressively scaled, because we found that the distribution of PA/DA was bunching up a bit, and fell almost entirely in the 25-85 range (looking across an entire SERP). So, a 25 gets scaled down to nearly zero, to give the new metric more granularity.

                                          It looks like the CTR-adjusted PA for "Naturmode" on Google.de (for example) is right around 26, so it may be that the PAs have gone down a bit over time as well. Even by the non-weighted metric, I'd expect that to be a solid 10 points lower than the old difficulty score.

                                          We're going to dig in and try to find out if the rescaling is too aggressive, once we have more data from real-world KWE usage. In general, though, you're going to see a bigger range of difficulty scores with the new metric. It's pretty tough to meaningfully compare the old and new scores.

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                                          • SureFire
                                            SureFire last edited by

                                            Hi Rand

                                            Love the new KE tool! Great job.

                                            I'm in New Zealand and like others out of the States I also found myself puzzled by the keyword volume estimate, but makes sense now you've clarified these are currently US volumes.

                                            Can you please confirm that, whilst we should ignore the keyword volume estimates for non-US markets, the difficulty and opportunity scores are still applicable outside the US?

                                            Cheers, Mark

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