Need URL structure suggestions

[UmarKhan]

Hey Lina,

I'd suggest you to take a look at these posts from Rand for better understanding,

https://moz.com/blog/15-seo-best-practices-for-structuring-urls
https://moz.com/blog/11-best-practices-for-urls

Honestly speaking, the long URLs doesn't bother search engines, they can process them without much trouble. The issue, instead, lies with usability and UX.

[Lina500]

Thanks! Just had a look at these links, very helpful. In my above examples, do you think having the city name in the URL more than once makes it look spammy? I am not sure if I should change these since the pages are already up for a few months or if I should just be more brief in the new guides.

[UmarKhan]

I'd suggest you to incorporate "Breadcrumbs" approach in managing your links for search engines as you can easily map your link structure. It will be something like this:

expat-city-and-island-guides >> battambang >> battambang-hotels-and-accommodation >>classy-hotel

As far as the current links are concerned, I don't think you need to insert city names in URL multiple times. Come up with descriptive but short URL for each page as you've already implemented the "Breadcrumbs", search engines will understand how your site is structured.

For more info about Breadcrumbs, check out this post from Ann Smarty:
http://www.searchenginejournal.com/breadcrumbs/15022/

[Bob_van_Biezen]

Hi Lina500,

I think you’re right about changing this before moving on. In any website we develop website structure comes before content creation.

I understand your concern about keywords in the URL and the length of the URL. The current URL is pretty confusing for your visitors and is probably too long to read.

Gladly for you, Google doesn’t put too much weight on keywords in your URL and they are getting better and better at understanding what pages are about. A Word like accommodations will be known as a close variant of hotels for example. This way a descriptive URL is just fine.

In your situation I would find out what words are used most. For example:

Accommodations vs hotels

Island guides vs city guides

If the most searched keyword describes the page I would pick that one. If however the other keyword fits the content of that page best I would pick the other keyword.

Your own suggestion movetocambodia.com/expat-city-guides/battambang/accommodation/classy-hotel/ seems like a pretty good one to me.

I would only skip /expat-city-guides/ and make it movetocambodia.com/battambang/accommodation/classy-hotel/ since these are keywords that get used combined. People won’t search for city guide classy hotel for example.

In the ideal situation I would go for /expat city guides/battambang/ for the city guides and put your accommodation overview under  /accommodations/battambang/classy-hotel/ (without /expat-city-guides/ before it.).

I hope this helps!

[Lina500]

Thank you! I use the term hotels much more, but I used 'accommodation and hotels' because some of the places are guesthouses, not hotels, etc.

I'm using Wordpress so there's no easy way for me to get the /expat-city-and-island-guides/ out of the URL, but I can shorten it to /expat-city-guides/ or even /city-guides/. I might keep expat because it's an important keyword for me. For the same reason (Wordpress structure) I can't move battambang after accommodations without changing the whole site structure (and design) which I don't think I am willing to do.

I think I'll try movetocambodia.com/expat-city-guides/battambang/hotels/classy-hotel

Seems more manageable and readable. Now I just need to set up 301s on all of the old pages....eep.

[Bob_van_Biezen]

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[Bob_van_Biezen]

• Hi Lina,

  Can't you just make a page for city guides and one for hotels and use those as head pages and put the rest under those?

  So

  head page: hotels

  under that: battambang and under that one the classy hotels page

  And for the guide something like:

  head page: expat city's

  under that: battanbang guide

  Just an idea, good luck with redirecting!

[Lina500]

I could, but it would ruin my sidebars. Also, my idea is that people will be looking at all of the stuff for one particular city, so it makes sense to keep each city in its own subfolder.

What do you think the advantage is to having the hotels in their own subfolder? I was thinking about re-doing the sidebars manually anyway (right now they are automatic based on the Wordpress structure)

[Bob_van_Biezen]

Hi Lina,

It would keep the URL's short and descriptive for your visitors and more important in the SERP's which could increase your CTR.

Besides that, my experience is that people look for either an hotel or information about the place. Although they will find the information useful at some point the starting of a search (entering the query in Google) will focus on either information about the place or information about the hotels.

This way I would split the information on your website as well and make sure you point your visitors to it with internal links or buttons.

That’s just my point of view, asking your target audience about this is a great way to make decisions as well!

[Lina500]

Thank you. The problem is that my target audience (expats in Cambodia or coming to Cambodia) is not my actual audience. For this sort of thing, I get most of my traffic from people coming from Google searches. The site has been up for several years now (although the guides are relatively new) and this pattern has remained steady. I am not sure if I should be designing for the audience I want or the audience I have.

[Bob_van_Biezen]

Can it be that the traffic from Google are expats? Since it's hard to give people a face solely based on Google Analytics data. Either way you look at it, I think the best solution is the one that services your visitors and is SEO friendly. And if you’re facing the situation you can’t choose between the two, I would always stick with designing for people instead of search engines.

Since search engines are getting pretty smart in detecting unnatural “optimalisation” and a good user experience results indirect in good rankings (dwell time for example) as well.