Affect of dissavow upload on Moz DA

[KeriMorgret]

Hi! Moz can't access your Google Webmaster Tools or disavow file, so you won't see a change in DA by disavowing those links. Google will know about the change, but we won't. There's another thread asking for this feature, and we're discussing internally if anything around this is feasible, but any implementation would be a ways out right now.

[GPainter]

I would love to see the idea as it could make life a lot easier for recovery as once the list is done its a bit more head scratchy as to why you're left with.

[Andy.Drinkwater]

Hi,

Just to add to Keri's reply, you can start to see the effects of the disavow from as little as a few days, to as much as 6 weeks.

My suggestion is just to keep an eye on your positions in the SERPs for a good gauge to when changes are starting to take effect.

-Andy

[EGOL]

There's another thread asking for this feature, and we're discussing internally if anything around this is feasible, but any implementation would be a ways out right now.

I think that moz should spend their first effort (a big one) making documentation that explains what DA is, what it ain't, how you should use it, and how you shouldn't.  (I know that there is a bit written about it already but people are not reading it and people don't "get it".)

DA/PA is the most misunderstood thing in Moz.  No kidding.

Look how many times people come to Q&A complaining why they have higher DA than the people who are outranking them.    They don't understand it.

Lots of people are worshipin' these numbers, selling increases as a service, crying because their DA dropped a point, using them for their base performance indicators, thinkin' it is connected to Google... etc.

IMO this stuff is a decoy away from productive work.

Just my opinion.  Give me thumbs down if you disagree.

[ORS-Group]

Thanks for all the responses, perhaps keeping my eye on something like ahrefs will show more results?

[Andy.Drinkwater]

It's worth remembering that the disavow tag is completely invisible to anyone other than Google, so Majestic, Ahrefs, MOZ or any other backlink crawler, will still see the same. Even Webmaster Tools still shows the links.

The only way you will tell what is happening is if a manual penalty is corrected and removed, or SERP positions start to climb after an algorithmic penalty.

-Andy

[GPainter]

Not the Mention Bing and other search engines.

[gfiorelli1]

The only way you will tell what is happening is if a manual penalty is corrected and removed, or SERP positions start to climb after an algorithmic penalty.

Not totally true. You never really recover the same ranking when a penalization is lifted, simply because you deleted or disavowed those links that were making your site rank high.

Therefore, as in many extreme cases I saw, if 90% of your link profiles was toxic, and you have both deleted or disavowed, you're site will still be buried in the deepness of SERPs.

That's why every cleaning of the link profile should be accompanied by the creation/earning of new links.

[ThompsonPaul]

Actually, Chris, if you're submitting a disavow list to Google, you should also be submitting it to Bing through their Bing Webmaster Tools. In fact, Bing created this capability well before Google ever offered it.

Too many people ignore Bing in their optimisation efforts, in my opinion. One of the best ways to protect one's site from the vagaries and uneven treatment of small business sites by Google is to spread your traffic acquisition amongst a larger number of sources. The less utterly dependent on Google a site is, the better it can survive a hit from the Big G.

My opinion,, anyway.

Paul

[GPainter]

Hi Paul,

Great Tip, most of the time though the sites ranking fine in Bing and as it works differently to Google I find no need to disavow vast amounts of links. I'm curios to see where Yahoo is going to go as I know they decided to get back in the game.