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    • JCDenver
      JCDenver @SoleGraphics last edited by

      It is not what I was asking.

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      • JCDenver
        JCDenver @MiriamEllis last edited by

        I'm not referring to Local. I am asking about siloing a website.

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        • EGOL
          EGOL @JCDenver last edited by

          I thought that you got a really good answer, and if you do those two searches and compare side by site... the answer is pretty clear.

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          • MiriamEllis
            MiriamEllis last edited by

            Hi JCDenver,

            I'm sorry I misunderstood your question. Let me ping our other staff members for you to see if anyone has experimented with this. I hope you will receive an on-target answer.

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            • EGOL
              EGOL @JCDenver last edited by

              Maybe you should explain in more detail?

              On a tangent..... You know that "Philadelphia Lawyer" is an ancient term with very different meaning that "Philadelphia Attorney"?

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              • JCDenver
                JCDenver @EGOL last edited by

                Our primary key phrase for the site is "Philadelphia dog bite lawyer"... has only tangential relationship to the reference of "Philadelphia lawyer" historic meaning. Again, please focus on the actual question please.

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                • JCDenver
                  JCDenver @EGOL last edited by

                  Do tell what is clear then...

                  I see a mix of results, and without all the other variables that go into the rankings, they look just like the results I used to get when I optimized the two terms as separate terms. Sometimes Google showed my attorney keyphrase searches as the home page that was optimized for lawyer. Sometimes they showed it for lawyer.

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                  • MiriamEllis
                    MiriamEllis @JCDenver last edited by

                    Hi JCDenver,

                    Hang in there. I've asked for extra help from our staff on your question. It could be that the way it was originally phrased has caused some confusion, but you have provided good details and I do hope you'll get a helpful answer soon. Thanks for your patience!

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                    • Cyrus-Shepard
                      Cyrus-Shepard last edited by

                      I don't have any real world experience with these terms, but if I understand correctly, your asking if Google is treating the intent of "lawyer" and "attorney" as the same.

                      The only way I know to investigate is to search Google for similar terms, like Seattle Lawyer and Seattle Attorney. If we do this for a dozen searches there seems to be some overlap of intent, but it's certainly not 100%.

                      That said, I think Google would interpret "dog bite lawyer" and "dog bite attorney" as pretty darn close semantic matches, which if overdone could lead to a Panda, duplicate content like situation. I'd probably try to target these terms on the same page, and consolidate my unique content as much as possible.

                      Hope this helps! Best of luck.

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                      • JCDenver
                        JCDenver @Cyrus-Shepard last edited by

                        Thanks Cyrus. I guess I really should not have written any thing but the word SILO!

                        The entire first part of my discussion item was for background and example. I simply stated that I was "unsure if Google treated them the same". My question is discussed in the third paragraph and located in the fourth paragraph (if readers would pay close attention -- tip, a question mark at the end of sentence means it is a question) and is whether or not  anyone has real, tested, experience that would indicate that it makes sense to Silo for the two terms by creating two separate silos.

                        That said, I have gotten the opinion from Danny Sullivan directly that he believes (and I'm paraphrasing) that Google has long treated the two as synonyms and that there should be no need to silo.

                        And (to your points Cyrus), I agree as long as the pages have unique content there should be no "penalty", which I always do anyway. That is simple SEO 101, but I include it for future generations reading this thread 😉

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                        • wbmsmet
                          wbmsmet last edited by

                          I read an article that explains a little bit more on what you are addressing here: link removed by admin

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