Video SEO, should I do what Roger does?

[PhilNottingham]

It definitely does have a volume control!

[BruceMcG]

Thanks for your answer Phil (hat tip to you being a video seo subject matter expert).

My objective is to build links (to boost keyword rankings, domain authority and increase traffic). I've read your blog posts in detail, gone to DistilledU video seo posts, sat on the sofa and mulled it over ... and I think that hosted through Wistia or Vimeo Pro, allow embeds and shares is the right video approach.

It's kinda 3 (Dana, Steven below and Roger) against 1 (yourself) when it comes to whether it should go up on YouTube at some stage in the future. I'm willing to believe you're right but ... are you sure you're right about not uploading to YouTube in the future?

[BruceMcG]

Thanks Steven, very helpful.

What do you think of Phil's comment,

"Don't do both - as you'll cannibalise your overall success on YouTube - while potentially driving traffic there. Either be really good on YouTube or don't bother and then self host."

Currently the question remains answered as to whether I should do both.

[PhilNottingham]

What I am right about, is that you need to consider your content type into the equation here and let that influence the technical implementation.

I didn't say "don't put the content on YouTube", but I don't believe anyone can offer you the correct advice until they've had a look at your content in detail, alongside your site and worked out what the best implementation can be. There is no one answer to the "where do I host my video" question - and anyone who offers one without taking the specific content type into consideration hasn't thought it through (That's not to criticise any of the other answers here - but I think they're all too quick to offer you a solution without the proper process of discovery.)

Reread this post http://www.seomoz.org/blog/building-a-video-seo-strategy

You're currently at the position of the first graphic, where you're letting your goal define the technical implementation - but are completely ignoring the content type within that equation.

You originally said that you want to rank with a rich snippet - but now you say the goal is building links. I can almost guarantee your content won't be suitable for both competitive keyword ranking and building links - so which one is more critical and what sort of content have you created? Is the content suitable for building links? And if so - is it suitable also for the YouTube community? Is anyone on YouTube searching for relevant keywords?

For purely building links, you can go through the path of uploading to YouTube after self hosting that dana mentioned (which i detail in this post http://www.reelseo.com/video-link-bait/) but bear in mind when you do this that you will allow some links to point to YouTube that you otherwise may have been able to get back to your site. It may also mean YouTube outranks you for the video for a time, until you reclaim the links and take it down

The technical implementation will always be a compromise and I suggest that you'll be best off nailing down what it is you really care about and what the content's suitable for, rather than hoping for everything with one series of content.

Does that make sense?

[BruceMcG]

Very insightful thanks Phil, though I'm not sure I follow, "your content won't be suitable for both competitive keyword ranking and building link". I'll do some more reading on this point.

It made me review what my objective is with video which is to build links (which I thought was to to boost keyword rankings, domain authority and increase traffic). So I'll allow embeds 'links' and host with Vimeo Pro.

I did use the YouTube keyword tool but there is "Not Enough Data" for any of my important keywords. So I looked at SERPs by using my SEOmoz keyword 'Rankings' report. I have 38 very important keywords, 7 of which show video results in the Top 50, 2 showing results in 10th/11 place. (Ironically I have one of those 2 results but it points to my Vimeo Pro page not my website reinforcing my desire to get video SEO right!). 6 of these are for YouTube. Only 16% are YouTube, so I take it that means YouTube is not for me.

Goodbye YouTube.

[PhilNottingham]

What i mean by "your content won't be suitable for both competitive keyword ranking and building links" is that the kind of video you'll want to create and embed on an important keyword landing page is probably not the kind of content that people are actually going to link to. It's extremely rare to find a video that will serve that landing page well (likely by being fairly commercial in nature) and a video that lots of people will want to link to (by being useful, informational or entertaining). That's not to say it's not possible, but I have never ever seen it executed successfully.

If your goal is basically just getting these rankings so you can drive traffic that may then link to you - then yes, I would recommend using Vimeo Pro or similar (if you're using vimeo pro, Disable the community pass). If no-one is searching for those general topics on YouTube - it's probably not going to be worthwhile putting your content on there. You can test it, of course - but make sure that the metrics you're tracking are traffic from YouTube and engagement on the platform. It's easy to get swayed into thinking YouTube is useful because of high view counts - but views are essentially just "hits" and there's no way of knowing whether those views could have been driven to the version on your site instead.

When you embed the content, you'll also need to provide a custom embed code for others that includes a textlink back to your site - as the standard vimeo embed code will only link back to vimeo.com

[StevenHowe]

The answer is, rather unhelpfully at first glance, "it depends".

It depends on your overall objective for the content - what is the goal you are trying to achieve?

It depends on your audience location - are they organic searchers, social media sharers, youtube searchers, etc?

If your primary objective is to get people to your site (link building) and you're using the lure of video to incentivise this, then Phil's "don't do both" comment is spot on. If on the other hand you want as many people to watch the video as possible and make it accessible through as many channels (because you have a diverse audience base and you're not link building) then I think you can do both.

I would say that Phil has more experience at Video SEO than me so his comments certainly count double on mine for this topic!

[danatanseo]

I am so glad Phil jumped in here. He's brilliant....and absolutely right of course. I think he's really got it the right way around with determining what you hope to achieve and what kind of content you want to produce and let that determine where you publish your vids. I happily defer to his recommendations and suggest you follow them.

[BruceMcG]

Thanks Phil.

[BruceMcG]

Thanks Steven