Google has a problem with this keyword

[RyanKent]

Michael, initially you assumed the problem is Google, which is a mistake. Now you are assuming the problem is me, which I humbly suggest is another mistake. Neither I nor anyone else is likely going to be able to offer you any assistance unless you open up to two possibilities:

1. The Google search engine is working just fine and your site is ranking where it should.

2. The advice shared with you is accurate.

I am human and fully capable of error. After reviewing the concern you expressed I stand by the response shared above.

I looked at Google.com.tr, Google Turkey. The evidence is everywhere:

a. The first words of my response is that you rank on the 3rd page of search results. Do you find yourself on the 3rd page of results for Google.com for the term "doktor"? I found your site on the 3rd page of Google.com.tr

b. I specifically mentioned "You are competing with every doktor related site in Turkey."

c. I even mentioned checking Bing.com.tr

The sole reference to Google.com made was specifically called out as such. I shared the #1 result for the term "doctor" in Google.com with you as an example of an optimized page.

Once again, the term "doktor" in Turkey is highly competitive. Your assessment was incorrect. Your page is also not well optimized for the term "doktor".

Good luck.

[mertsevinc]

I am an open person and I came here to get help. I guess you are missing my point because you are paying great attention to current trend in Google rather than what I am trying to say.

The word is not competitive from my point because I have reasons. Firstly, if it was a very competitive word, my site would not be on the first and second pages of Google for couple months. The sites you see in those rankings were always there. They got more domain age than I have. I've checked their on-page optimization and according to SEOMoz they have terrible on-page results. Secondly, my site has unique content and it has a higher PR than almost any site for that term. But it looks like PR does not affect much anymore after Google algorithm changes.

You are taking what I am telling you very personally and don't seem to want to deal with the facts that I am representing you. You are completely ignoring the past tense. Personally, I appreciate the time and effort you dedicate here but also feel upset because you've given me such an answer.

The reason I came to this forum to find actually a person who greatly understands SEO and work with him. From my point of view, this would only happen if someone looks at the past and present and then make a judgement.

You are telling me that my site is not optimized for Google and I am telling you that it was even worse 2 months ago but I was ranking in the first page.

After joining SEOMoz and running the on-page tool, the software told me the same. My site had issues with H1-H6 tag usage, not enough keyword repetition and some other stuff. After improving the front page based on these suggestions, my site has significantly dropped and every day it keeps dropping.

Do I make more sense to you in terms of explaining my issue here?

[RyanKent]

Michael, I have read everything you shared with an open mind. I have considered everything you shared in your initial question along with the two follow up responses. After giving everything you shared consideration, your situation makes sense to me. It is logical and aligns with my understanding of how search engines work.

To be clear, there are many possibilities and various aspects which can be explored. Within the context of a Q&A forum, there is only so much that can be done. With access to your Google WMT and Analytics accounts along with further research, more information can be gathered and it is possible for other conclusions to be drawn.

We will have to agree to disagree on this topic. I am sorry I was unable to assist you. I sincerely wish you the best of luck.

[mertsevinc]

Thanks Ryan. Take care.

[irvingw]

how about giving Ryan some thumbs up and answered status for all that work and time he put into helping you out

[irvingw]

If you think a short tail keyword for a professional industry like "doctor" is not competitive or hard to rank for you're mistaken I don't even have to look it up.

[mertsevinc]

Sure

[RyanKent]

Irving, I appreciate the support. It is OK, really. Each site owner is entitled to their own opinion. In this case, Michael clearly feels I have not listened to his needs and my response does not address his concern. Accordingly, no thumbs up is warranted.

I sincerely hope others will chime in and try to help address Michael's question. Someone else may have a different perspective.

[mertsevinc]

I am happy that you dedicated time for me Ryan. No worries. Someone else told me that my site contained hacklinks previously and that's why I got dropped to 3 page. Maybe that was the issue...I don't know.

[irvingw]

Well, I know you put a lot of time into really looking into peoples issues to give a proper and thorough answer and i respect you greatly for your SEO knowledge. Some people charge a lot for SEO analysis and have much less experience than you.

[RyanKent]

Your kind words are thoughtful and appreciated Irving. I hope you have a wonderful holiday season.

[irvingw]

How long ago were you told that happened? Hacking with viagra and other links on your site will definitely get your site penalized until the links are all removed. You should be able to see if this happened to your site if it's before your time by looking at traffic history in GA.

[mertsevinc]

Hi Irving,

Well this started to happen couple days ago. I started to optimize my page more relevant to the keyword I was targeting by using SEOMoz's on page tool and some other tool and then suddenly site started move down. It might be possible that during this transition I started to loose some .edu links. I am not really sure the main reason.

I also added Google+ profiles for my authors and increased social activity via Twitter and Facebook which I hoped would actually improve my rankings but it did not seem to have any impact

[alsvik]

Perhaps you are not doing anything wrong, but maybe your competitors are doing something right