Duplicate exact match domains flagged by google - need help reinclusion
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They're split up over 5-6 hosts...but identical WHOIS info......so there's maybe 20-30 per hosting account.
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What value? Same as ServiceMagic for instance...........We have as much right to be in a city as a local 'plumber'. What does a user in Montana care if the website looks the same as the one in New York?
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Link profile and exact match. I was able to grab the equivalent of plumberlosangeles in every major city in the country. They were #1 for new york, la, houston, philly, etc.....This was a 7 figure gross generating adventure.
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If you want to target multiple locations then do it properly, do not duplicate your site over ever state, rather create a unique website with its own content that is more relevant to the location you are targeting. If they are unique enough then Google may consider them as you have put the time and effort into making them different. This also includes local phone numbers in each state to show that you are actually in the state.
As for "What does a user in Montana care if the website looks the same as the one in New York?" - The problem is that local search may not dominate the right way in every state so the poor user in California see's 7 sites that all lead to the same place. This now becomes spam that annoys the hell out of the user. It is all about quality, 50+ pages all leading to the same place will result in a low quality experience to the users therefor will likely be denied.
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I have to agree with some of the other responses. Google is really cracking down on duplicate content and code. It is time consuming to to write new content and redesign the sites, but you have to weigh the costs. If the site is your livelihood then is worth working on it to get back in Google's good books. If it is a site that you have created to get link juice then maybe you shouldn't put the time and effort into it.
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yes, I also want to see
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Still mixing a lot of fact and fiction. Exact match domains still work. People have been saying that Google is 'going after' them, but that's not really true. There are plenty of exact match domains out there that are legitimate and separating the good guys from the bad guys is not going to happen at the domain level, doesn't make sense. Also, please keep in mind what the duplicate penalty content is for and how it's used. Having you site drop after an algo shift is not uncommon. I know plenty of domain farmers (in the 2 million+ domain range) and the biggest issues they face is bad rankings because of lack of content, overly aggressive link building, link wheels, etc).
I believe that a warning in GWT means it's been flagged for a manual review, but might be totally wrong about that. In the 15 years that I have been doing this, I have never been warned or received an email about unnatural link building.
I am currently chasing a link spammer/domain squatter right now so I can attest that those methods still work just fine if you know what you're doing. Once your site makes it in front of a human, its simple to figure out what other sites you have and what you are up to. Setting up single sites with different WHOIS info, different CBlocks, unique links, unique content, is extremely time consuming.
I have found that I make a lot more money focusing on a handful of sites and making them as best as possible, than I do managing 100s of sites with spun content, crappy links etc.
Start thinking out side the box to get real visitors coming to the site and interacting, social signals are a huge part of search. Look at microformats and push reviews, give people a reason to interact and refer other people. City directories and sites like that still have a place in the search engines.
If these sites really make money, I would go after local search because of the city name. I guess it depends on what you think a lot of money is. If all else fails, find a local biz that sells or caters to your KW and try to sell them the domain, especially if its already getting traffic.
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If you made a good return on these sites, dont spin/spun or do anything like that.
- Replace all the content of the sites with good, high quality content. This will make them stick for ever.
- Keep the design, if its perfect in terms of seo. (i dont think it effect the ranking to have the same design on all sites..)
- You can link related cities to each other, after you have done 1 and 2 on the sites.
Stop doing black hat and keep it real. All blackhat will come back and bit you in the a**.
Good luck
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Why don't you just come up with another scheme to make money!
This one seems to have run its course. Be happy with the money you made and move on.
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I'm curious to know if this is has been resolved. Like others here, I've been successful on several re-inclusions, so here is my two bits:
Template duplication is probably not related to the manual penalty.
Duplicate content will definitely tank you sites (but may not come through as a "violation" email in WMT)
The culprit is almost certainly backlinks. The bonus is that you have access to all sites - were any not penalized? When you got your backlinks, did you pay for packages across multiple domains?
When I do re-inclusions for agencies that handle multiple clients, I compile the database of backlinks using Open Site Explorer and the External Links section of WMT and then use excel function to find what links are common to all penalized sites and which are not.
By doing so you can really highlight the backlinks that are most probable for causing red flags. Remove those links, and write Google. Just tell them you understand you have bad links, and that you've removed as many as possible. List the links right in your email.
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EMDs, with all having same template and similar content and having tons of low quality links (with many linked through Keywords) even worse all those EMDs heavily interlinked might be he worst combination you can have!
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A few more questions
- Are they all hosted on the same server / IP address?
- Are they all registered by the same domain registra / same company or person?
- Is the content duplicated too? Or have you Spun the content?
- Are the links low quality?
- Do the sites all have the "same" links? (Have you submitted multiple templated sites to the same directories etc...)
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