Comments from Traffic Generation Cafe About Other Web Marketing Products

[ConversionChamp]

Rand is a very good marketer and SEOmoz sells only because of that.

Obviously people who pays for SEOmoz are fools.

Well, that's what people over at link-assistant seem to think

Glad I don't think so. Neither do most of us who are in the SEO business do so.

Here is a post which made me post this here. : http://www.trafficgenerationcafe.com/internet-marketing-products-2011/

Go to the section where Tanya McTavish from link-assistant thinks that SEOmoz is not worth the price and it's a sin to speak against Rand the SEO Superboy

I tried to defend SEOmoz, but I guess it's worthless. Might as well mind our own business

P.S: See how SENuke is recommended though!

[Kotkov]

SEOmoz made my life easier in 4 days when I started Tools are great, all at one place, and reports... they are just great . SEOmoz does not worth what it cost, it worth a lot more!

[Keszi]

ConversionChamp,

Well, everyone has a right for his opinion, you can choose if you want to pay or not for a service like seoMoz. But, having more than 15000 people paying for this service (and I could name some big names from here) proves that seoMoz provides value.

Since the day I came to seoMoz community I had the chance to learn something new each day, develop myself... That is not because of the "tools", that came from people! And seoMoz is doing more than great in this part. Rand, even though he has a lot of work, he responds to emails if he gets 2 minutes time for it. Erica and Jen are working hard on the social networks, help team, etc. etc. And I just named a few of them, but there is a whole team behind the scenes providing valuable webinars, blog entries, new and new tools, working on getting Roger move faster and help him get to our websites...

Many thanks for this seoMozzers! (Since I don't want to name you one-by-one, just sending people to you, so they can know who is there: http://www.seomoz.org/about/team )

seoMoz is not only a tool, seoMoz is a community too, and it is great to get to know people from here.. and now if I want to quote something, then I rewrite the MasterCard advertisement: "fer everything else, there is..." seoMoz

Maybe you should consider this part too.

Gr.,

Istvan

P.S. "Rand is a very good marketer and SEOmoz sells only because of that."  - Are you really sure?

[ConversionChamp]

Maybe you would want to re-read my entire post

The comments were made by people over at link-assistant. I support SEOmoz

[Keszi]

I know, but you have underlined it, strengthen it in: "I tried to defend SEOmoz, but I guess it's worthless."

My reply to the conversation was made for all who think that seoMoz is not worth it while checking the cost-vs-benefit. It is not an attack addressed to you or noone, I hope I didn't make myself unclear with that message.

What I was trying to underline, is that people tend to check only the tools they get for an amount of money, and not the benefits they get from the whole community.

don't take it personal

Gr.,

Istvan

[ShaMenz]

Link-who?

Glad to see you weren't too badly affected by that less than impressive attempt at content development...actually a fairly solid example of how much the writer could obviously benefit by spending some time learning from the hundreds of posts in the Daily SEO Blog and YouMoz - all of which is absolutely FREE!

Even better, maybe they should also consider some of the excellent material on offer at Inbound.org

Not sure that I would do them the service of providing a link from SEOmoz ...maybe just type the URL and let people copy/paste if they are interested?

Sha

[ConversionChamp]

Link is no follow anyway. So I wouldn't bother!

The blog owner Ana, is a nice person and I respect her. But this time, she might have missed the fact that the person who made the comment works for a competitor.

[ConversionChamp]

Oh. I thought you did not clearly make out what I meant

Yeah. Most people do not realize the power of the community. When you say 99$ is too much for a tool, it shows how limited your knowledge of SEOmoz PRO is.

Rand, I think something needs to be done about the perception that SEOmoz is just a tool! But we love it the way it is. Keeps naysayers out of this ecosystem!

[randfish]

Hi Adarsh - thanks for bringing up the thread. Honestly, I've seen much worse about us on the web, and I suspect it will continue.

There's usually a lot of criticism for products/services that gain popularity online, but this one doesn't bring out any specific, so it's hard to argue with. I also noticed they grouped Majestic and Moz - not sure if they realize we're two separate companies, though obviously are friendly and on good terms.

p.s. I also edited the title of your discussion post here to be more accurate to the topic

[ConversionChamp]

Thanks for chiming in Rand. I am not sure if you should be telling that the comment is from Traffic Generation Cafe. It was rather from link-assistant and the owner of the blog, Ana just posted it.

I wouldn't have brought this up if it was a genuine user comment. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. however, if a competitor tries to give a bad name, that's another thing.

I remember link-assistant coming up with claims that another tool Market Samurai is supposedly not telling the truth to it's users and it will take them minimum 6 months to fix it. Truth is, MS team foxed it under a week

Anyway the problem people raise is that they cant afford 99$ a month. So how come a $147 spam tool like SEnuke is affordable?

[activitysuper]

I use SEOMOZ for 2 things, getting feedback on things im unsure about from industry pros on the forum, I love this feature because most users have there company name and job title so I know they know what there talking about, this takes out the guessing factor whether the information is valid or not.

Second the seomoz tool bar in Google (extension), to see what kind of comp im up against when thinking of ranking for a keyword, very VERY useful tool.

So Google keyword tool to see what keywords are driving queries then into Google itself, on comes the tool bar and then maybe Google insights to see traffic trends (might even check out open site explorer).

That's all I need it for, that in itself is worth $99.

[JasonRae]

Some people need to rip other peoples building down so they can be the tallest, others just choose to build a bigger building.  I am to to Seomoz and to seo for that matter, but when I hear someone ripping someone else it's a total red flag!  They do this because of their own insecurities and has nothing to do with Seomoz.  I love paying the 99 bucks a month for this site, what is the cost of learning all this stuff on your own, well it's alot more than 99 bucks per month.