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Hey Dirk I think that's the crux eh - keeping the 1 to 1 ratio. Makes it a bloody cinch to do too. Still doesn't quite sit right somehow to have canonicals on top of canonicials mind you but sod it - works for me. Cheers Dirk. Alex.

Totally agree, it's kind of a non issue, improve the canonical if you can but really, don't sweat it.

yes u can cookie the user based on IP and send them to the appropriate place. since bots aren't browser based they can't accept cookies and see the default content. dunno why they need to do this though

Thanks Matt. I've come to the same conclusion - to be honest, it's pretty obvious when you get your head around it. My problem is an incredibly difficult client (who doesn't speak English well) muddying the waters so much - it's nice to hear thoughts by someone who has a much clearer head than I have. I can't do anything about the sub domains now but I agree folder are a nicer solution: That's another story though. I'm pushing for a javascript based language pop up option based on non-matching IP's to the current sub domain. I could talk about this one for hours - I can feel the grey hair forming every day with this project! Cheers Matt.

Thanks Guys I've got some developers to help me with the tech side so they'll be using the servers etc that they're used too. Just wanted to check I wasn't dropping a massively obvious clanger on the SEO side. Cheers for your help. Alex.