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cool thanks i see the tick

so that confirms that strucutred data testing tool can make you think its not set up when it actually is in the circumstance where you havnt added any code!/

We have set up webmaster tools long ago but not sure with what email address since so many in the oragnisation for this client. So are you saying if we havnt with same email address then theres a problem ? (the tick is there)

thanks for that resource, although it doesnt answer my question since says it was a bug and now working again so i need to know how you get a brand box bakc in the Knowledge graph, any tips welcomed

not really still looking for the answer, any ideas Matt ?  

yes thanks i did , had posted twice since no one answered this original post prob due to time of day

pls do see my follow up notes though

Thanks Tafser

What im asking is how do you check is the page/publisher is successfully set up if you have not used any code (so testing tool wont work since no code to look for) ?

Then I ask what do you need do to win the brand box in the knowledge graph, do you need a certain amount of followers or interactions before you get that ?

Thanks for the tips

All Best

Dan

• Hi

  How do you test successful G+ company page/publisher integration/verification if using the less technical methods such as linking between the Home page and the G+ company page instead of adding code to the head section? Since i  take it the google structured data testing tool cant work in these cases since no code on the head section !

  Is it best to add the code anyway ? I note my clients still not achieving a knowledge graph card/section in the search results for a branded search but i have heard that doesnt come until you have at least hundreds of followers and/or G+ interactions.

  All Best
  Dan

the moz bar says they are 301'd so presume so but will double check with dev

i suppose if all definately are 301'd for sure, then just wait and see what haps after the sitemap is updated correctly and then take it from there

Re: 302 vs 301 do you mean there's a possibility dev rewrote via a 302 instead of a 301 (they had told me used a 301) ?

Re mozscape not updating, I just checked G search results and upper case versions indexed there and last cache date was 12 march

Grt thanks !!

Sorry 1 final question since just noticed another related anomaly

The urls have been redirected to lower case for over a month now but the urls showing in ranking reports are mainly still upper case versions, how can that be ?

Cheers

Dan

thanks for confirming that Ryan !

So use 301 as the method for 'rewriting' upper to lower case, so the 301 is the rewrite ?

They had told me they had already applied 301's of upper to lower case so i guess its probably just a case of updating the site map urls to resolve this ?

all best

dan

Hi

How do you test successful G+ company page/publisher integration/verification if using the less technical methods such as linking between the Home page and the G+ company page instead of adding code to the head section? Since i  take it the google structured data testing tool cant work in these cases since no code on the head section !

Is it best to add the code anyway ? I note my clients still not achieving a knowledge graph card/section in the search results for a branded search but i have heard that doesnt come until you have at least hundreds of followers and/or G+ interactions.

All Best
Dan

thanks Ryan

I will do that , but just to confirm then re the contradictory messages, is that because there are 400+ pages indexed hence showing that info in the index status, BUT in the sitemap there's only the home page showing  because all the other urls in the sitemap have probably changed ?

I had instructed dev to rewrite upper case urls to lowercase and amend the sitemap. If the have done one but not the other could this be the sort of thing causing this discrepancy in the GWT messaging ?

All Best

Dan

Hi

Im looking in GWT account for a client of mine and see that in the index status area 400+ pages are indexed so all seems ok there! But then in the sitemap area 111 pages have been submitted but only 1 indexed !

Any ideas whats going on here ?

Cheers

Dan

Just looked into this further and the HTTP to HTTPS migration totally explains it IMO

Hi Monica

Im noticing even less pages in the sitemap index in GWT now so thinking could still be a genuine problem issue rather than data issue with GWT

Ive been looking a bit more in depth at ranking pages and notice that site went HTTPS in early Feb and the impressions started to drop almost straight after:Some previously well ranked HTTP pages dropped to the 50's - 60's suddenly in between the 4th - 11th Feb to be replaced in the high rankings soon after by their HTTPS equivalent/replacement. This time frame is exactly when the GWT impressions drop starts.The HTTP pages are still ranking though, so could the fact that pages are falling out of the index, combined with HTTP pages still ranking signal a possible dupe content issue causing the drop in impressions, and i should tell dev to delete or fwd/redirect the old HTTP pages now HTTPS are live ?If this is the cause, could it be a permenant problem or should deleting/redirecting solve it ?Just a thought !?------------------------------------------------------------Edit additional info:Ive just seen this article: https://www.seroundtable.com/google-webmaster-tools-http-https-19965.htmlThis makes me think need to set up a whole new webmaster tools profile for the HTTPS version and also explains loss of impressions etc for HTTP - so loss is nothing to worry about since impressions now being achieved by the HTTPS site version ?

ok thanks Monica

yes it does seem very strange and im very worried about that sharp fall in search impressions although cant explain it since rankings havn't fallen and neither has traffic from organic search, but impressions look like they are falling & consistently getting worse

Server error - im not sure since marked as fixed to see if old error and will see if it comes back but had been reported since December and these GWT issues only started on 9th Feb

Similarly the sitemap warning was first observed in October so didnt think would have anything to do with it. Its a 404 to do with a 'page-sitemap.xml' with the following message:

When we tested a sample of the URLs from your Sitemap, we found that some URLs were not accessible to Googlebot due to an HTTP status error. All accessible URLs will still be submitted.

But when i click on the example url it actually resolves with the correct page ok, so again didnt think this woud have anything to do with recent GWT issues

Panguin screenshot attached - doesn't look like anything since GA data is showing traffic and s light increase over mentioned period/after final yellow line which i presume is G update you refer too ?

Regarding: "Acquisition - Source/Medium and check the amount of unique traffic (not the total sessions, just the new sessions) from Google Organic and compare that to what you see in GWT"  Here i've gone to Source/Medium > Google Organic Then i've clicked 'Other..' ? 'Users' > 'User Type'. (Is this the best route to the data you mean ?). In here New Visitor and Returning visitor are listed with New Visitor saying 406 visits (same period in GWT is 393 so v close).

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I've never really looked to see if they actually match to be honest, its not so much a about them not matching exactly, just that GA is reporting visits from organic search (specifically from google) as per normal/as it has done for last couple of months and GWT reporting sharp decline in impressions and almost zero click thrus (i attach a screen shot of the GWT dash).

Also a weird anomaly in GWT ive just seen today is that crawl stats crawl an average of 55 pages per day (last data point the 22nd Feb) whereas the sitemap index section is showing 65 pages submitted but only 16 indexed (which i'm sure is a drop and most were previously indexed). And Google index status is showing a sudden drop in indexed pages from the 15th to the 22nd going from 64 to 30 indexed pages).

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why not ?

surely if the GWT data is out of sync with everything else then it seems most likely the problems with GWT data doesnt it ? (especially given all the other recent articles on probs with GWT in Feb?)