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    • MatthewBarby
      MatthewBarby last edited by

      Hi Carl,

      First step is to identify all of the links. Pull off the full backlink data from OSE, Majestic SEO, Ahrefs and WMT. Compile all of them into one master spreadsheet and then upload these to the Link Detox Tool (http://www.linkdetox.com/). This will give you a starting point for finding all of the toxic links - bare in mind that this is just a guide and you will still need to go over the link manually.

      Start gathering webmaster details and record EVERYTHING in a Google Docs spreadsheet. Record the webmasters' contact details, URL, date you contacted them, the date of the response, any action taken, etc. Spend a good month on link removal to get as many removed manually as possible.

      Once this stage is complete you will need to Disavow the rest of the links. Be careful here not to Disavow genuine good links. When it comes to the likes of SENuke links, you will want to Disavow them on domain level, i.e:

      domain:jonnyhetherington. com

      After you have submitted a Disavow, submit a reconsideration request and let Google know all of the bad links that were pointing to the site, why they were there and what you have done to rectify it - be explicit. Also, link to the Google Docs spreadsheet with all the details in.

      If you get a negative response back then dig a little deeper with the links to Disavow - most reconsideration requests get knocked back the first time but ignore those that say 'you can't recover', because you can. Just make sure that your client understands the implications of everything. They will have further dips in rankings and traffic before it gets better.

      Hope this gives you a good starting point.

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      • GrumpyCarl
        GrumpyCarl last edited by

        Matthew,

        Many thanks for the detailed reply. Shortly ago I used the linkdetox tool, I didn't realise you can upload files to it so used their built in bad link identifier. It has given me about 1800 bad links which am working though. Helpfully a few of them are blogger sites and have no contact!! Am managing to contact about 30% so far so that's better than nothing.

        I have read about using buzzstream.com to try and pull the contact information on the other domains, I will employ this once I have finished going through the list. So far I have documented the urls and contact times in a spreadsheet. I must admit I didn't know you could link to a Google doc in the reconsideration so the spreadsheet I am working through will provide a good start, especially if the removed column starts to fill up!!

        Thanks again

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        • Kurt_Steinbrueck
          Kurt_Steinbrueck last edited by

          In your request to Google, did you explain that you were not building these links and that it appears to be someone performing negative SEO on your client?

          -Kurt Steinbrueck
          OurChurch.Com

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          • MatthewBarby
            MatthewBarby @GrumpyCarl last edited by

            Yeh, I would recommend using Buzzstream for the data gathering, it saves a heap load of time - I also outsource it to freelancers on oDesk - you can do this for a very l;ow budget and just speeds the whole process up.

            With the Link Detox tool, importing all of your other link data is vtial towards getting a good reflection of the links. Good luck 🙂

            If you get really stuck, email me (my email is on my Moz profile) and I'll help you out more where I can.

            Matt

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            • GrumpyCarl
              GrumpyCarl @Kurt_Steinbrueck last edited by

              No, sorry I may have worded myself poorly...the client used an seo agency until a couple of months back, it seems although a lot of the spam links were posted between Dec and Feb they are only now impacting on the site. When I referred to negative seo, I more meant it as a joke that the links look like the perfect example of a negative seo campaign. Found some forum spam earlier on Arsenal FC forum and a forum about psychological issues faced by transgender people. Both of these sites seemed fine sites in their own right but one would have to question their value when linking to a door handle website!!

              The initial (and thus far, only) request was a very basic one to say we have received this penalty, we hired a poor seo company to look at our site and it seems they spammed our domain. I told them I had disavowed several hundred domains but I think it failed owning to the lack of proof of manual work, so, as suggested by Matthew (above) I will include a document this time to show who we contacted, when, the reply and the current link status

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              • Kurt_Steinbrueck
                Kurt_Steinbrueck @GrumpyCarl last edited by

                Yeah, Google definitely wants to see that you've put some effort into removing the links and that you aren't doing it anymore.  It's also not uncommon for it to take several requests and several months.

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                • GrumpyCarl
                  GrumpyCarl last edited by

                  Thanks for the replies everyone, they are most welcome.

                  If I could trouble you to one sub question before I mark this as solved. When cleaning up a dodgy backlinks profile, what is the general view on no follow links? Going through the client links and they seem to have a fair few no follow links from generic directories. Even though they shouldn't be counting toward a site ranking, I have been asking people to remove these too. My view is that if I remove all the bad links, regardless of follow situation, that will show Google that I know what is right and what is wrong re the site.

                  Thanks, Carl

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                  • Kurt_Steinbrueck
                    Kurt_Steinbrueck last edited by

                    I agree with that Carl.  It's one thing if your worried that Google might penalize you, maybe you don't worry about the nofollows.  However, once Google has already placed a manual penalty on the site, it's all about showing Google that your not trying to game their system and you're working hard to correct the situation.  A bunch of links on spammy sites will still look bad to a reviewer even if they are nofollow.  I'd try to get them removed as well...though I may not put as high a priority on them.

                    -Kurt

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                    • MatthewBarby
                      MatthewBarby @GrumpyCarl last edited by

                      Yeh, tbh, you don't need to worry too much about nofollow links. The only thing that I would do is check through some of the nofollow links to see if they are all blog comments that have been done with an automated system. If this is the case then there could be duplicate content issues that are leaving a footprint back to your site (i.e. within the spun comment). This isn't a major concern but worth a little look - but as a general rule, you don't need to worry.

                      Matt

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                      • GrumpyCarl
                        GrumpyCarl last edited by

                        Thanks for the replies everyone, now comes the fun part when I have to crack on and work way through 48,000 backlinks!

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