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    What Are The Page Linking Options?

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    • 94501
      94501 @94501 last edited by

      Good point! Wonder if they'll go for that.

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      • SeoStallion
        SeoStallion @94501 last edited by

        I think that the image alt text will 'work' just that it would not be as strong indicator of content as the text. From my personal experience the alt tag alone might not be authoritative enough to encourage the search engines to list that page for the alt terms. I think that as it stands an alt tag may help reinforce a link but am not sure it is enough on its own.

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        • SeoStallion
          SeoStallion @94501 last edited by

          P.S. I like the button idea, trying to think about how I might be able to implement them into one of my projects.

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          • 94501
            94501 @94501 last edited by

            Do you guys think there's any hierarchy of link ideas, such as footers not as good as a "popular searches" cloud further up the page?

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            • SeoStallion
              SeoStallion @94501 last edited by

              Provided you don't have an unnatural number of links on the page there should be no reason, the whole page will be crawled - header to footer.

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              • 94501
                94501 @94501 last edited by

                I guess I always figured in general that higher up meant more important, but okay you don't think so. I really appreciate your weighing-in.

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                • SeoStallion
                  SeoStallion @94501 last edited by

                  No problem at all, in fact I've been doing some digging around because I am rather interested in seeing if I can rank another page for a keyword through the alt tag. I will keep you informed but if I can't find a relevant answer I'll try to test it on my sites.

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                  • 94501
                    94501 @94501 last edited by

                    What do you think of this:

                    http://www.seomoz.org/qa/view/24587/are-linked-images-with-an-alt-tag-equivilent-to-a-anchor-tag-with-anchor-text-in-terms-of-seo-value

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                    • SeoStallion
                      SeoStallion @94501 last edited by

                      I think that it makes a point that the alt tag does in fact hold more weight than was previously thought (many SEO resources stated that the alt tag was only considered for specific searches). The problem is that the alt tag leaves an open window to exploitation and that at the end of the day as far as I am aware content is still king.

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                      • AlanBleiweiss
                        AlanBleiweiss last edited by

                        Link equity is not equal across a page.  The two most important types of links are main site navigation and in-content.  Sidebar navigation is close behind.  Footer links are not what they once were.

                        Think about it from a user experience - how many sites do you go to where you primarily navigate through a site by scrolling to the bottom of pages to find the links you want?  Even high ranking sites that fill their footers with lots of links also have those higher up on the page and those footer links not only don't help, but with so many of them, it just causes topical relationship confusion.

                        Couple options:

                        1. change the main nav links to images and use alt text.  Alt text does have as much value when it's images in main site navigation because how else would search engines know the anchor information on those?

                        2. See if you can get links to some of those internal pages from within the content area of high level pages on the site - within or directly near descriptive text that talks about the focus of those pages you're linking to.

                        3. Something that hasn't been mentioned so far is also off-site factors.  Without inbound links pointing to some of those internal pages, you're not going to get as much ranking value as you probably need and are trying to get from internal linking.

                        With inbound links you have more free reign to get the anchor text you prefer, though inbound links should be a mix of keywords, brand and generic words like "for more info".

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                        • AaronSchinke
                          AaronSchinke @94501 last edited by

                          Be careful here. This can look very shady to users! Users first! (I swear I'm not a Google fanboy)

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                          • 94501
                            94501 @AlanBleiweiss last edited by

                            Hey Alan,

                            Interesting answer with lots to chew on there. It's kind of hard to rival the homepage for external links pointing to it. And, equally hard to get interior catalog type pages high quality links.

                            By focusing the inner pages on specific terms, how do you know you're not swapping a good ranking homepage for a more targeted but lower ranking interior page. It kind of feels like bomb disposal. Are there instances where you don't focus interior pages for fear of Google ranking them lower than the homepage? Thanks...Mike

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                            • KeriMorgret
                              KeriMorgret @94501 last edited by

                              @SeoStalion That's considered hidden text and not recommended.

                              [edited for clarity, since threading doesn't occur this deep]

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                              • AlanBleiweiss
                                AlanBleiweiss @94501 last edited by

                                I don't fear Google lower rankings because of home page / interior page swaps.  I make my decisions based on what's best for users.  If an interior page is more appropriate, that's that I focus the attention on.

                                If that page doesn't rank as high as the home page previously had, there's more work to be done.

                                But that's the luxury I have being someone who performs audits on really big sites where clients have the budgets and the long-term perspective to get it done.

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                                • 94501
                                  94501 @94501 last edited by

                                  Hi Aaron and Keri,

                                  So, what makes an alt image tag okay vs. "hidden text" and bad? I mean, if a picture/link is of sheepskin seat covers and you alt image tag it "sheepskin seat covers," where does the problem come in? When is an alt image tag not "hidden text?"

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                                  • 94501
                                    94501 @94501 last edited by

                                    Okay, so let's say your client doesn't have really deep pockets. My fear is that they would see that I got a page to rank lower than previous for the term and "thanks alot!"  Would one be better off not touching it or trying to get the page's authority up before on-page optimizing it for the term?

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                                    • AlanBleiweiss
                                      AlanBleiweiss @94501 last edited by

                                      If a site owner doesn't have the proper budget for marketing online required to go "all the way" with SEO, then I wouldn't try things out that could negatively impact them.  I'd focus on other tasks, because there are ALWAYS other tasks.

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                                      • KeriMorgret
                                        KeriMorgret @94501 last edited by

                                        An alt image tag is there to describe the image if you can't show the image, like if someone was browsing using a screenreader. It is ultimately there to help the user. Text and background the same color is there to serve the search engines one thing while the user sees another thing, which is not OK by any of their guidelines.

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                                        • 94501
                                          94501 @94501 last edited by

                                          Yes, I didn't perceive anyone was talking about text and background the same color. You are right, obviously that would be complete ButterScotch.

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