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    • TomCritchlow
      TomCritchlow last edited by

      Hmm - not sure I'm trusting those graphs. SEOmoz didn't see any change one way or the other with Panda...

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      • EGOL
        EGOL @TomCritchlow last edited by

        Thanks for looking into this, Tom.

        I have been doing a little research myself..... I can find lots of sites that show massive traffic losses on  the dates of panda updates.  However, I am not finding any sites that show substantial traffic gains - at exactly the same time - which is what we would expect to find.  Right?

        So, I am now starting to think (like others in this thread) that the data being presented in Google Trends is suspect.

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        • SteveOllington
          SteveOllington @EGOL last edited by

          Damn, so Trends should be avoided due to false information for a while or...?

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          • SteveOllington
            SteveOllington @EGOL last edited by

            Some of those same sites through compete.com:

            http://siteanalytics.compete.com/webmasterworld.com+seomoz.org+digitalpoint.com/

            As they use a combination of data sources I guess we'll have to stick with them...

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            • AlanBleiweiss
              AlanBleiweiss @EGOL last edited by

              I've never trusted compete.com data - every test I've done with their data has ranged from "wildly under-reported" to "wildly over-reported", with the occassional "lucky guestimate" thrown in.

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              • SteveOllington
                SteveOllington @EGOL last edited by

                Yeah they do admit they estimate, based on their sampling. But I believe they mix panel with tool bar and ISP data, so I would have assumed their estimates would be kind of close but maybe not then lol.

                Where do you use? I guess none can be trusted really can they?

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                • EGOL
                  EGOL @EGOL last edited by

                  Thanks Steve,  I don't see an end-of-February drop for any of those sites in that data.

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                  • TomCritchlow
                    TomCritchlow @EGOL last edited by

                    Yeah, all of these data providers are a little suspect. Especially compete!

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                    • SteveOllington
                      SteveOllington @EGOL last edited by

                      Yeah even if the numbers are way out with the different source, you'd expect to see some reflection with the trending. I wonder what's wrong with Trends then.

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                      • SteveOllington
                        SteveOllington @EGOL last edited by

                        "Especially Compete"... haha, worse then Alexa? 😜

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                        • AlanBleiweiss
                          AlanBleiweiss @EGOL last edited by

                          I'd like to say "you can only trust numbers if you have access to an individual site's anlaytics.  Except every analytics program is suspect.

                          Oddly because they're all suspect, I use data for finding trends in the data.  Which brings us full circle to Google Trends.  Apparently Google can't even spot accurate trends.

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                          • EGOL
                            EGOL @EGOL last edited by

                            Why did they all move the same direction on the same date - the panda date?

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                            • bemcapaz
                              bemcapaz @EGOL last edited by

                              I think maybe they do spot but its not in their best interest to just release it to the world for free

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                              • SteveOllington
                                SteveOllington last edited by

                                Eureka! (Possibly... I think/hope).

                                Trends uses four sources right?

                                Sooooo, if you think about it, all it would take is for Trends to stop using just one of those sources and wham! There it is, the drop!

                                Now, I noticed people recently saying that GA had removed benchmarking, which will be replaced by something better later. Since GA benchmarking is part of the permission-al "opt in" data that makes up Trends, and the fact that it disappeared at the same sort of time... logically you could conclude that Trends suddenly stopped getting data from that source.

                                That would explain everything!!

                                I should have been a detective 😜

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                                • meshach
                                  meshach last edited by

                                  Interesting thread! Has anyone got any third party to confirm? SEOmoz have anything to add?

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                                  • vaibhav45
                                    vaibhav45 @EGOL last edited by

                                    Our Site learnhub.com & Jumbotest.com saw 30% increase in Traffic after panda update.

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                                    • toeplly
                                      toeplly last edited by

                                      I am Managing SEO for Multiple Websites, One Health Website Traffic Goes Down Up to 60 % , Before Panda We are getting 3500 Daily Visits and Now It's 1700 Per Day, Help me Out, What Steps Should I Follow to Get my Traffic Back .. 🙂

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                                      • EGOL
                                        EGOL @toeplly last edited by

                                        I have not heard of any sites that were hit by Panda being released from the problem.  If people were getting out they would be yelling YEEEEHHAAAA! in the forums.  So, until that happens you can only guess at what might be holding your site back.

                                        I would focus for now on an overall improvement in content quality.   That is always a great investment.

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                                        • Websensejim
                                          Websensejim last edited by

                                          Yeah, looks like Google Trends data is not to be trusted (like most other G products). I just looked at those graphs for some heavyweight trusted authority sites including the BBC and guess what - same big traffic drop  LOL

                                          Steve O, I think you may be on to something.

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                                          • SteveOllington
                                            SteveOllington @Websensejim last edited by

                                            If it turns out to be right, I'm going to get myself a deerstalker hat, start smoking a pipe, and walk around calling everybody Watson. 😄

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