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    • activitysuper
      activitysuper last edited by

      I don't think so EGOL, maybe you are just looking at it from the SEO side of the fence.

      When im searching for my own purposes Google 80% of the time delivers everything I want, whether its a map of places to eat in my local city or youtube rich snippets of a band ive heard about.

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      • DenverKelly
        DenverKelly last edited by

        Nice Post, EGOL. You don't like Google with all the "improvements" - like to I rank 6th on page 1 or 17th, depending on what Google decides to display on the SERPS.

        How about DuckDuckGo? They are pretty generic and without personalization.

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        • EGOL
          EGOL @activitysuper last edited by

          So, you would use vanoogle for the other 20%?

          I think that most people would use it all of the time.... so if 80% of people use it all of the time and the rest use it 20% of the time that would be 84% market share.

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          • EGOL
            EGOL @DenverKelly last edited by

            I like it.  The Faveicons add character. (... and my sites rank well)

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            • DenverKelly
              DenverKelly @EGOL last edited by

              Your sites ranking well is the most important criteria for Vanoogle!!

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              • activitysuper
                activitysuper @EGOL last edited by

                The other 20% with the yellow pages.

                No need for vanoogle, why don't you just go back to the very beginning and use http://www.dmoz.org/.

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                • SEODinosaur
                  SEODinosaur last edited by

                  It would be nice if they gave you google classic (AKA Vanoogle.com) as an option. That way everyone would be happy.

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                  • activitysuper
                    activitysuper @SEODinosaur last edited by

                    Yeah that would be nice, the nearest thing I got to that is going 'incognito' in chrome.

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                    • EGOL
                      EGOL @activitysuper last edited by

                      I used to have a "clean machine" that I used to check rankings, never signed in and never clicked anything in the SERPs.  That has stopped working because previous searches are stinking up the SERPs.

                      I want a button to "turn off all bias".

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                      • DougRoberts
                        DougRoberts last edited by

                        That's all well and good, but how do you get the average man on the street to switch?

                        For example, my dad has never "chosen" a search engine in his life. He just goes with whatever he browser defaults to / manufacturer set up as a default and failing that "google" because it's the only one he's heard of... He thinks any weakness in the results returned are because he "must have types the wrong thing."

                        It would be really nice to be freely toggle all the factors your mentioned on/off (and set defaults) so that you could have the search that you wanted.

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                        • EGOL
                          EGOL @DougRoberts last edited by

                          Thanks for your dad's perspective.

                          He thinks any weakness in the results returned are because he "must have types the wrong thing."

                          That is eyeopening!

                          Experienced people might enjoy the toggle feature you suggest... that will allow them to filter the "fluff" and get pure results.

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                          • DenverKelly
                            DenverKelly @EGOL last edited by

                            For pure results we should have all the sites that match the search term listed in alphabetical order.

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                            • JustDucky
                              JustDucky @EGOL last edited by

                              When I want to access the "official" site without having to dig through the commercialized sites on the SERPS, I use Bing instead of G.   Much more pleased with the results when I'm not searching for "long tail" phrases.  Vanoogle (your idea of a toggle to get "pure" results) is a great  idea but G wants ALL the ad revenues it can bleed out of a page.

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                              • APICDA
                                APICDA last edited by

                                I would most definitely use it!  Dare to dream, dare to dream.................

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                                • DougRoberts
                                  DougRoberts @EGOL last edited by

                                  It would also enable us to see how much better these additional factors make the search results with out own eyes and not have to rely on Google's promise that they do. Show us the evidence and let us come to our own conclusions!

                                  At the moment it's a bit like a kid being told to eat their greens...

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                                  • EGOL
                                    EGOL @EGOL last edited by

                                    I remember what Google was like a few years ago.  The SERPs were full of relevant information (in my opinion).  Now they have a few relevant at the top and marginally relevant below... and some other things that are tangents.

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                                    • Matt-Williamson
                                      Matt-Williamson @EGOL last edited by

                                      Bulloogle.com would definitely have to be a metacrawler - putting emphasis on metatags - oh the good old days haha!

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                                      • Matt-Williamson
                                        Matt-Williamson @EGOL last edited by

                                        I tested this out myself but couldn't replicate it, however I can imagine it happening - like you and others have said they are testing things all the time.

                                        Maybe they ran out of bananas that day! Just imagine all those years we have spent trying to second guess the algo of Googlebot and the key was a monkey haha.

                                        The only problem with vanilla is that it is easily influenced by other flavours around it don't you think..?

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                                        • blacey
                                          blacey @EGOL last edited by

                                          Like SEO Moz has Roger, Bulloogle.com could have this as their mascot http://bit.ly/HUIovX

                                          I think advertising is so overkill and its only getting worse. I really don't like route search engines are taking when showing their SERPs and other content, personally I use google with JavaScript disabled the "page preview" on hover of the link/arrow is useless and really naff.

                                          FYI: The twocents html tag is depreciated and won't help your SERP rankings on bulloogle.com 😛

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                                          • zigojacko
                                            zigojacko last edited by

                                            We currently have a browser session on a local server used for serving search results without any of the cr*p that Google like to push. This gives a completely clean and accurate search results page in any brand of search engine (Google, Yahoo, Bing etc) and type of search engine (web, image, maps etc).

                                            This is mainly controlled via the use of query parameters in the URL string. No results are ever clicked on within the session as to not influence rankings. There is no web history, no personalisation, no geo-targeted within the results.

                                            I hate everything Google have done to make search results more 'personalised' or 'targeted'. And that's not just because I work in the SEO industry either.

                                            Granted, stripping back your search experience to the raw criteria as we have done shouldn't be this difficult and I would certainly be a solid user of Vanoogle but what we've done works for us and ensures we don't see skewed results (when we require).

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