Best ways to build up Page Rank (PR)

[therealmarkhall]

But what if my business plan was to build sites gain PR then sell links?

[therealmarkhall]

I have a great deal of SEO knowledge and I have a few ways of getting a site to have PR but I'm always hungry for more knowledge, hence the question on this SEO q+a site!

[SteveOllington]

Then you'd be selling links based on PR, which doesn't make much sense. I get spam emails offering links from high PR sites, but we all know that it doesn't work that way. A site may have high tool bar PR but really have very little trust and authority, with links that are next to worthless. At the same time, a site may have fairly low PR but pass great link juice.

PR isn't up to date, and it's a single metric (a quite unimportant one) among hundreds. I would look at MozRank over and above PR every time, along with the age of domain, the site's own rankings, the number of links already coming off the site, where my link would go, and so on...

People do buy links from high PR sites but only because they don't understand that it's almost meaningless nowadays. It's kind of a scam selling them on that basis.

[therealmarkhall]

I'm not really going to start selling links on sites with PR that I have created! Thanks for the advice though

[SteveOllington]

Sorry Mark, neither of us meant to offend. It's just that as Ryan said there really aren't any shortcuts with it, so when you ask for quick ways to build PR it's easy to assume you're looking for a shortcut. So Ryan was just trying to give you some good sound advice there, since a lot of people do ask similar stuff and don't understand about there not being shortcuts. Plus PR building really shouldn't be anywhere on the agenda for an SEO anyway since it's of such little consequence to any outcomes.

[VisualSense]

I don't agree. Link selling can be a very lucrative business. In fact I believe it's more the other way around. High PR sites attract more buyers e-mailing you requesting for links, and you they're simply willing to spent more, wether it's justified or not. And in terms of getting higher PR, which was OP's question, the answer can't be easier: get more quality links and keep updating your site. IMHO the PR game hasn't changed.

[therealmarkhall]

No offence taken. And I understand and agree there are no fast gained sustainable shortcuts to long term SEO - I have this conversation daily! However unimportant it is with grand scheme of things, sometimes you get a new client who will no be educated and only cares about PR - Hence to keep said client you go get some PR for them!

[SteveOllington]

Well I guess it will be a while before enough awareness really spreads about PR not doing a lot... but, I would assume most of those requests are from people who don't know that link acquisition should be based on a lot more than PR (and PR being at the lower end of the links value). Possibly those same people who are still trying to trade links based on PR... the ones that send the spam emails lol.

[SteveOllington]

I would say try to educate the client but I know where you're coming from, some clients simply don't want to be educated on it. They heard from their mate or read in some forum that something is important and that's all that matters... I've had a couple like that lol. Thankfully though, they seem to be few and far between, with the majority of clients wanting to understand it all as much as possible which is great

[Ant71]

I used to be obsessed by Page rank, thats before i discovered SEOMOZ! I havent looked at my PR for over a year now! .... hmmm maybe out of interest i should check!!!!?!?!

[DaveGerecht]

If you are still focused on PR then the quickest and best way to do it is quite simple through original and relevant content with an ongoing link building strategy.

Simple eh?

[cyber2]

You need to create unique content, then attract relevant organic links to the page. Over time google will reward your website with a higher page rank

[MaratM]

Since I've become a Pro member of SEOMoz and started using the SeoMoz toolbar and rank parameters I've become obsessed with MozRank, MozTrust and Domain Authority much more than with PageRank.

Moreover, when estimating a site as a potential link source I always look at it's domain authority first, even if the individual linking page has low PA. I may be mistaken, but my strategy is to build good overall authority for my domain, getting links from other sites with good DA.

[dittoeffect]

buying and selling links is frowned upon by google.

[dittoeffect]

Your best bet is to learn how to find dofollow links from high page rank sources.

A good way to do this if you have limited experience is to find a forum or registry required site that allows you to comment while getting a link to your profile with each comment. Also make sure that the profile allows you to have a dofollow link to your site. It is not too hard to post comments on pages and threads with 4PR+ which will boost your profile a great deal and thus boost your site's PR while being a legitimate way to provide value and get good results for yourself too.

[Igor-Avidon]

High PR alone does not mean much, so don't waste your time. Evidence for this is the fact that you can buy expired high-PR domains, and they will give no juice.

mozMetrics (PA & DA) are far more telling. To build up your credibility, it all boils down to 1) original content and 2) how well you are able to distribute this content on the net.

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