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    • onurkiyak
      onurkiyak last edited by

      Hi,

      Our page rank was 5 for the last 3 months. Before it was 4 for a long time. Today our page rank dropped to 0 and I have no idea why.. We didn't buy any links or did anything wrong..

      I also checked every keyword rankings we are on but we didn't loose our spot in any keyword..

      Is it a short term thing, or am I in the sandbox? How can I fix this problem or avoid from a worse situation..?

      www.gourmetmarketing.net

      • We just changed the site template few times in last two months..

      Thanks

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      • AlanBleiweiss
        AlanBleiweiss last edited by

        The "page rank" you refer to - is this the ToolBar PageRank?  If so, relax, take a step back and consider this:

        1.  TBPR is an inaccurate indicator.

        2. TBPR is not updated for months at a time, and thus does not reflect timely reality.

        3. TBPR is irrelevant to professional SEO

        4. You say you didn't lose any rankings

        5. The real and only question that matters is this:

        Did you see a dramatic drop in visits coming from organic search queries?

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        • netmkting
          netmkting last edited by

          Changing your site template should not have effected your page rank.  Matt Cutts from Google explains that page rank is a formula based on backlinks and the quality of them.

          I wouldn't stress too much about your PR.  What matters the most is how well you are ranking.  If you haven't dropped in your keyword rankings, then you have not been sandboxed.  Just continue to focus on building quality backlinks.  Build your PR back up.

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          • Thos003
            Thos003 last edited by

            My tool shows you with a PR=3 ... Not quite a 5 but much better than zero. I don't think you are in the sandbox. Just growing pains.

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            • bemcapaz
              bemcapaz last edited by

              If you were in the sandbox you would have no doubt about it, hehe

              The truth is, when you get sandboxed you can expect a drop around 90% (if not 100%) of your visits from organic Google, thats the stat you look to check if it has happened or not 😉

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              • onurkiyak
                onurkiyak @AlanBleiweiss last edited by

                Alan,

                thanks for the info. We didn't loose any traffic. Everything looks fine except our google rank.

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                • AlanBleiweiss
                  AlanBleiweiss @onurkiyak last edited by

                  Onur

                  That's good to hear.  My only concern is the perception that your "google rank" was affected somehow.

                  It's not your google rank. It's a publicly shared generalized numeric value Google puts out for curious onlookers.  It's not based in reality.

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                  • onurkiyak
                    onurkiyak @netmkting last edited by

                    Nice Article. Thanks for the advice.

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                    • onurkiyak
                      onurkiyak @onurkiyak last edited by

                      Thanks a lot. It is a relief.

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