The Moz Q&A Forum

    • Forum
    • Questions
    • My Q&A
    • Users
    • Ask the Community

    Welcome to the Q&A Forum

    Browse the forum for helpful insights and fresh discussions about all things SEO.

    1. SEO and Digital Marketing Q&A Forum
    2. Categories
    3. Technical SEO Issues
    4. On page optimisation: Good for the users and engines?

    On page optimisation: Good for the users and engines?

    Technical SEO Issues
    9 5 1.1k
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as question
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • madsurfer
      madsurfer last edited by

      I would like to rank for words as:
      windsurfing equipment
      windsurfing news
      windsurfing sails
      windsurfing boards etc.

      Now am I wondering if I should use exact those words in the navigation/titles/descriptions because it seems not user friendly. The whole website is about windsurfing thus naming it just “equipement” instead of “windsurfing equipment” would be clear to a visitor that I am talking about that windsurfing related topic.

      Here is an example: http://madwindsurfing.com/cat/competitions-events/
      I can even change the URL to http://madwindsurfing.com/cat/windsurfing-competitions-events/

      What would be the best way of choosing the naming/descriptions when I do on-page optimisation which is good for the engines and for the users and who would you do in my case?

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • Julich
        Julich last edited by

        Check SEOMoz's term target tool. It will provide you with great feedbacks on what (and how) to optimize on your page : http://pro.seomoz.org/tools/on-page-keyword-optimization/new

        madsurfer 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • Dan-Petrovic
          Dan-Petrovic last edited by

          I disagree with your view that "windsurfing equipment" is a bad thing for the users. Consider the fact that they will arrive through results to your site. If the phrase "windsurfing equipment" is in the TITLE of your page that will display as a clickable element in search results and also assure the user they're clicking on the right thing.

          As far as SEO goes, having an exact phrase somewhere in the title is an advantage to having a partial title (e.g. only "equipment").

          madsurfer 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
          • madsurfer
            madsurfer @Julich last edited by

            Thanks for the response. I did that off course and I am scoring an A grade on the on-page optimastion side. That says nothing about how the users will view it and if a human review of google will flag it as spammy.

            Julich 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • Julich
              Julich @madsurfer last edited by

              You're right. However, as far as I can see, I don't think the kind of keywords your have in your titles, etc. are not user-friendly. As Dejan says, they look like perfectly OK to me. Don't worry too much 🙂

              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
              • madsurfer
                madsurfer @Dan-Petrovic last edited by

                Even if you look at the home page and the nav menu will have the word "windsurfing" in front of each menu item?

                Dan-Petrovic 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • CPU
                  CPU last edited by

                  Hi Madsurfer

                  I would use the exact phrases in the name of the page, the page titles, alt text, anchor text etc, etc but wouldn't use them in the navigation and would go for equipment, news, sails, boats etc as the navigation labels as this will be more scannable by a user then having windsurfing before everything.

                  Presumably as you will have a page for each of these categories then it is that page that you will be optimising for that keyword and hoping ranks at number one when someone searches.

                  One thing I would do before naming all the pages is write a list of my products and the related phrases and enter them into the Google keyword tool and see whether there are similar suggestions that would still match the content of my page but with considerably higher estimated search volume. I would then optimise for that term.

                  Hope this helps..

                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                  • Guest
                    Guest last edited by

                    This post is deleted!
                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • Dan-Petrovic
                      Dan-Petrovic @madsurfer last edited by

                      See potential users don't see your homepage yet. You're bidding for their click among 9 other organic results on that page 🙂

                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                      • 1 / 1
                      • First post
                        Last post
                      • Will redirecting a logged in user from a public page to an equivalent private page (not visible to google) impact SEO?
                        0
                        1
                        28

                      • Blog Page Titles - Page 1, Page 2 etc.
                        Paul-Gross
                        Paul-Gross
                        0
                        8
                        549

                      • Is it good to redirect million of pages on a single page?
                        EricaMcGillivray
                        EricaMcGillivray
                        0
                        8
                        193

                      • Page that appears on SERPs is not the page that has been optimized for users
                        Don34
                        Don34
                        0
                        3
                        89

                      • Warnings on Pages excluded from Search Engines
                        ShaMenz
                        ShaMenz
                        0
                        3
                        719

                      • Lost ranking once optimised a page
                        kwoolf
                        kwoolf
                        0
                        22
                        1.7k

                      • My website pages (www.ommrudraksha.com) is getting good rank slowly. But no good sales ?
                        EGOL
                        EGOL
                        0
                        4
                        832

                      • Good links pratice for listing pages?
                        Getz.pro
                        Getz.pro
                        0
                        10
                        1.0k

                      Get started with Moz Pro!

                      Unlock the power of advanced SEO tools and data-driven insights.

                      Start my free trial
                      Products
                      • Moz Pro
                      • Moz Local
                      • Moz API
                      • Moz Data
                      • STAT
                      • Product Updates
                      Moz Solutions
                      • SMB Solutions
                      • Agency Solutions
                      • Enterprise Solutions
                      • Digital Marketers
                      Free SEO Tools
                      • Domain Authority Checker
                      • Link Explorer
                      • Keyword Explorer
                      • Competitive Research
                      • Brand Authority Checker
                      • Local Citation Checker
                      • MozBar Extension
                      • MozCast
                      Resources
                      • Blog
                      • SEO Learning Center
                      • Help Hub
                      • Beginner's Guide to SEO
                      • How-to Guides
                      • Moz Academy
                      • API Docs
                      About Moz
                      • About
                      • Team
                      • Careers
                      • Contact
                      Why Moz
                      • Case Studies
                      • Testimonials
                      Get Involved
                      • Become an Affiliate
                      • MozCon
                      • Webinars
                      • Practical Marketer Series
                      • MozPod
                      Connect with us

                      Contact the Help team

                      Join our newsletter
                      Moz logo
                      © 2021 - 2026 SEOMoz, Inc., a Ziff Davis company. All rights reserved. Moz is a registered trademark of SEOMoz, Inc.
                      • Accessibility
                      • Terms of Use
                      • Privacy