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    • AMHC
      AMHC last edited by

      Assuming that Google is using click data from users to calculate rankings (bounce rate, time on site, task completion, etc.) where does Google get the data, especially from browsers that aren't Chrome?

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      • Linda-Vassily
        Linda-Vassily last edited by

        Here is a good explanation.

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        • AMHC
          AMHC last edited by

          I guess I should have phrased the question a little differently. This is not related to Google Analytics.

          When I do a Google search, Google is able to track my actions, and is probably using the data as a ranking factor. Josh Bachynski did a Whiteboard Friday on it.

          https://moz.com/blog/panda-41-google-leaked-dos-and-donts-whiteboard-friday

          How is Google able to track user actions after they click on a SERP listing? Where are they getting their data?

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          • Mobilio
            Mobilio last edited by

            If you remember before 5 years ago all urls was unencrypted in SERP and lot of tools using this for capturing "keywords" and linking them to pages. After they introduce this in 2010 they begin rollout in few years and today only way to see keywords is in SearchConsole. Of course encryption is for "to improve your search quality and to provide better service". Original text can be seen here. Please note "provide better service" there. This is tricky!

            So imagine that you search for moz and here is actual URL i can see now:
            https://www.google.bg/search?q=moz&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=4wNVVpnZBYGoUZiXh4AG
            you can definitely see keyword there in ?q=moz now first result is Moz.com and it's URL is:
            https://www.google.bg/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjenMnUq6rJAhXIRBQKHXuVCcUQFggfMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fmoz.com%2F&usg=AFQjCNHNW83KUfvLcZOMILlYW49NobxUig&sig2=nOVvQ05KIPrGB3XFAFmIGgAs you can clearly see - there isn't keyword anymore but everything comes with encrypted data (ved, usg, sig2). This link /url is actual redirector that count your click on specific result and position.

            Now if i click on 1st result and go in Moz.com i can scroll down and i find "this isn't MOZ i'm looking for" so within some time (few seconds) i will return to SERP. This is actual "dwell time" and bounce back to SERP. It's negative signal because it's show to Google that result he return for first place isn't correct with human verification. Now back on same SERP i can see Moz in Wikipedia:
            https://www.google.bg/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=19&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjenMnUq6rJAhXIRBQKHXuVCcUQFghhMBI&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FMoz_(marketing_software)&usg=AFQjCNGCgqmsKNIdaZdGrbugf8bJk6NhTg&sig2=jS-vt68NFtD5YhgSV4lTGwIf i click this and i doesn't have return to SERP anymore this give to Google enough to calculate bounce rate for this site (only to return in SERP) so give Wikipedia some "goal completition". And time for next search can be used to calculated "time on site".

            And since all searches are encrypted they knows when specific user search for something and when they make new search based on already returned data. Example is "Napoleon". This can be anything - french emperor, movie, cake, drink and other things. So now i can do subsequent search "Napoleon height". This is example how one search can give me enough information to do another refined search. Other good example can be "32 us president". Then i can type "franklin d roosevelt height".

            This was explained much better in closing MozCon 2015 presentation "SEO in a Two Algorithm World ":
            http://www.slideshare.net/randfish/onsite-seo-in-2015-an-elegant-weapon-for-a-more-civilized-marketer
            and you should see it. There also shown few tests inside with terrific results.

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            • AMHC
              AMHC last edited by

              Thanks for the answer. Spot on.

              There's been a lot of speculation on "task completion" and how it relates to ranking. If completing a task is a purchase on an ecommerce site, how is Google measuring it? Is it only through Chrome or by some other means?

              how does Google measure when someone completes a form?

              is that possible, or is Google just checking to make sure that the cart and the form work correctly? Was that the point of the "Zombie" update?

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              • Mobilio
                Mobilio @AMHC last edited by

                That's tricky. There are lot of theories about Analytics, Chrome, AI, RNN, etc. Of course there also lot of speculations too!

                BUT here Josh Bachynski explain that task completion is correlated with with user metrics - time on session, bounce rate and average pages per session. Also others - please note subsequent search in mine prev answer. So in theory sites with better time, less bounce are considered as high quality. You can check also other videos from Josh in YouTube where he explain this many times.

                One of easiest way to track task completion is to add goals in Analytics and/or add events tracking too. Goals can be different - contact form filled, lead form filled, software download, whitepaper request, signup form, playing video, etc. Events can be - comments viewed, gallery viewed, video stopped, etc.Then you can see how many of your visitors do tasks and how many do events. This will be for your own insurance that they're inside of page and do something there.

                Trick is that Google will use only SERP visitors and their metrics. I can have site with 20k visitors daily from Facebook/Twitter and only 200 from Google SERP. I don't saying that 20k visitors can be wrong, but they will be almost useless for clicking test. Things will be different if we have 20k daily from SERP and 200 from Facebook/Twitter.

                So - whatever you do just when you receive SERP traffic keep it in site. This is higher priority for better ranking.

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                • AMHC
                  AMHC last edited by

                  But how does Google measure form completions or purchases for rankings?

                  Again, I'm not talking about Google analytics. We use it heavily for our ecommerce sites. I know how the UA tracking code works. Google claims that they don't use GA data for rankings, and I would tend to believe them.

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                  • Mobilio
                    Mobilio @AMHC last edited by

                    This was example with GA. I believe that they use dwell time and next or subsequent searches for this.

                    Because they can't fight against shopping cart abandonment's and other issues. So they have some as benchmark against other sites. If your metrics are above average in your industry then it's great. If your metrics are weak - you're in trouble. You can see benchmarking in Google Analytics. So whatever you do just try to make better metrics than them. Example - i just have seen that some of mine sites have pages/session 1.40 vs 2.99 in benchmark. Also mine session duration is 1:32 vs. 2:19 in benchmark.

                    Similar metrics are in PPC too - you need to be above the average for better positions, prices and conversions.

                    I know that all this explanation can sound little bit messy... but this is question all SEO specialists think about these days. If you know the answers you can become millionaire and retire quick.

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