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    • wgilliland
      wgilliland last edited by

      Firstly, apologies for the long winded question. I'm 'newish' to SEO

      We have a website built on Magento , www.excelclothing.com

      We have been online for 5 years and had reasonable success. Having used a few SEO companies in the past we found ourselves under a 'partial manual penalty' early last year. By July we were out of penalty. We have been gradually working our way through getting rid of 'spammy' links. Currently the website ranks for a handful of non competitive keywords looking at the domain on SEM RUSH. This has dropped drastically over the last 2 years.

      Our organic traffic over the last 2-3 years has seen no 'falling off a cliff' and has maintained a similar pattern.

      I've been told so many lies by SEO companies trying to get into my wallet I'm not sure who to believe.

      We have started to add content onto all our Category pages to make more unique although most of our Meta Descriptions are a 'boiler plate' template.

      I'm wondering....

      • Am I still suffering from Penquin ?
      • Am I trapped by Panda and if so how can I know that?
      • Do I need more links removed?
      • How can I start to rank for more keywords

      I have a competitor online with the same DA, PA and virtually same number of links but they rank for 3500 keywords in the top 20.

      Would welcome any feedback.

      Many Thanks.

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      • donford
        donford last edited by

        Hello W. Gilliland,

        Sounds like you were a victim of some really crappy SEO sites / people in the past. A very hard lesson to learn no doubt.The one good thing is it has at least starting engaging you in the process. Nobody knows your business better than you, even the most experienced SEO in the world. Being able to speak some of the SEO language will not only help you communicate with them, but also provides the benefit of you knowing what the hell they are doing, or attempting to do.

        Okay, onto the questions.

        1. Am I still suffering from Penguin? To determine this you'll want to check your Google Webmasters and make sure you have no Manual penalty. Second, you need to evaluate every page's back link profile. The penguin algorithm doesn't apply to just top level pages but every page! Many many question and answer guru's have helped with other questions about this topic, perhaps thumbing through them to see if anything catches your eye.

        2. Are you trapped in Panda and how do you know? First know what Panda was, it was an update that targeted low quality sites which were ranking well for keywords. Your site is far from low quality.. I don't think you have to worry about this directly, however in conjunction with the Penguin update which devalued crappy low quality links, it is possible that some of the "so-so" sites that were linking to you, may actually been hit themselves and warrant a link removal.

        3. Do you need to remove more links. Possibly, your site is huge and it would take awhile to completely navigate your back-link profile. I enjoy helping, but this question is one that is not easily answered without research.

        4. How can you start ranking for more keywords? Content is the key, and a huge obstacle for e-commerce sites. Maintaining tens of thousands of products can be extremely challenging. My advice is usually to focus on big keywords and pour on the content. For example, take a Brand & Category and write some compelling content for that page. I know Magneto is flexible enough to allow for custom pages, perhaps you can pick some of your best selling, or higher profit margin categories and dive in.

        To continue on with this thought I will have to be a tad curt about somethings, but please don't take them offensively rather productively. What you have now is what I call a "Field of Dreams" website, that is to say build it and they will come. There is nothing wrong with this, if your goal is only to provide existing customers an avenue to shop from home. However, if the point of the website is bring in new customers and not just a service portal for existing customers then you have to do much more.

        Example continued... I pointed out that you could focus on a Brand and Category, lets look at one (Paul Smith Footwear). To be honest I know nothing about Paul Smith, or their footwear, but that's okay for this example. Your page representing a keyword like "Paul Smith Footwear" looks like this.

        Title="Footwear" (not okay)
        Description="Default Description" (not okay)
        Keywords="Magento, Varien, E-commerce" (not okay, tag shouldn't exist at all)
        H1="Footwear" (not okay)
        Content= nothing really, a search filter with product images

        In this example I would recommend getting the SEO basics right, title, description, and populating some content. Because I know this can be a huge undertaking, you don't have to do your whole site at once, pick your top sellers or profit items and have a staff member or yourself write some content for the Brand and Product. Then use that text in conjunction with what you already have there.

        Example Revised

        Title="Paul Smith Men's Footwear, | Excel Clothing"
        Description="Paul Smith men's footwear is handpicked fashionable footwear for all occasions"
        Keywords=(this tag would be completely removed from all pages) H1="Paul Smith Men's Footwear"
        Content = Use the keyword again, describe the Brand, and how the footwear makes you fell and look, how Excel clothing decides which Paul Smith footwear to stock and sell. Then show me the filter and product images.

        In summary, you were hit by some bad SEO practices you'll need to be very proactive about monitoring all your back links. Continue evaluating each link and disavow the bad sites links. Ranking more keywords requires a complete look at the SEO basics and how they are implemented on your site. There is also room for improvement in the content department.

        That is my take on the matters and I hope you consider them in the helpful spirit in which they were provided,

        Don

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        • BlueprintMarketing
          BlueprintMarketing last edited by

          Don gave an excellent answer. You definitely do have a "field of dreams" site right now.

          I will use a enterprise tool to audit your site if you would like me to? This will tell you if you have too many links your crawl budget and other issues that could be affecting your website. Also if you have disavowed Links  this will obviously impact your site sometimes in a negative manner. Even if the links are junk they are still sometimes not harming the website. Please don't think what I just said means leave bad links pointing out your website.

          Remember that whoever built your website to put the link to their site definitely does not know what they're doing SEO wise.

          You may also want to consider combining your JavaScript and your CSS.

          http://www.magentocommerce.com/magento-connect/compressor-minify-js-css-magento-extension-by-potatocommerce.html

          &

          defering it will speed it up

          http://www.magentocommerce.com/magento-connect/defer-javascript-extension.html

          You can find many methods on magnetos  website.

          Cloudflare.com pro or  Business not free edition is an easy way to do this

          Your site is unfortunately running very slow and I have people running  with more server request  that do not see speeds over 1.5 seconds in the United States. Using a HHVM  server configuration.

          check out mgt-commerce.com There fast &  extremely reasonable.

          3.8 seconds out of Dallas is not very fast unfortunately.

          http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/?testurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.excelclothing.com%2F#!/cAJbTk/https://www.excelclothing.com/

          Sorry for the short answer I will give you hard data when I get back to my desk

          sincerely,

          Thomas

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          • BlueprintMarketing
            BlueprintMarketing last edited by

            Fyi see https://varvy.com/tools/js/

            you have 40 .js files.

            https://varvy.com/tools/

            https://varvy.com/mobile/

            Fyi see https://varvy.com/tools/js/

            you have 40 .js files.

            https://varvy.com/tools/css/

            https://varvy.com/

            https://varvy.com/pagespeed/

            this is hey is very small part of your site seo health but can play a large role  especially in e-commerce.

            Will ll's send audit

            tom

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            • MattRoney
              MattRoney last edited by

              Hey wgilliland! Did that help? 🙂

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