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    UPDATE: Rolling back an adjustment which had adverse effects on DA and PA scores.

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    • NgEF
      NgEF last edited by

      Much obliged for the update! I was checking on a backlink profile just yesterday and had seen the domain authority increase to 21 and then when I checked back again today, it was down to 20 again. I'm curious on one thing. Moz Local submits to BOTW, but why do we not see the BOTW link in the backlink profile from Link Explorer? I'm guessing that BOTW should be one of the sites indexed as well correct?

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      • sfh
        sfh last edited by

        Thanks

        Understood that relative DA might be more meaningful, but there seems to be something funny going on across the range of websites I track.

        My website has a https://www.skillsplatform.org/ had a DA of 40 which appears to have been adjusted down to 31 and now recently 28. This comes despite the number of LRDs increasing over the same period.

        All the organisations I track by comparison have dropped as have the DA for my parent company and the competitors in that space. These are all top draw highly respectable websites.

        • http://www.skillsforhealth.org.uk/ - Down to 43 from 55 in sept 17
        • https://www.skillsforcare.org.uk/Home.aspx - Down to 47 from 57
        • https://hee.nhs.uk/ - Down to 51 from 60
        • https://www.nhsemployers.org/ - Down to 49 from 58

        It seems strange that all these website have been effectively brought down a category. Is a DA 30 the new 40? Even highly respectable UK charity websites have seen a drop from 70 to 62 such as https://www.autism.org.uk/

        Yes it's all relative, but many of us had KPIs around domain authority and often DA is used as a sign of website strength when pitching for advertising. Further guidance on reasoning behind this would be appreciated. It seems there's been a drop in website DAs across the board apart from mega sites such as BBC.

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        • IanWatson
          IanWatson @sfh last edited by

          Across the board there was been a shift in DA as we index more of the web. We are finding more links to all sites, but the relative number we find to those mid range DA sites is fewer than what we are finding to sites like BBC and NYTimes.

          This normalizing of DA scores ensures that scores don't continue to climb just because our index size increases. Rather DA should climb when we find more new links to a specific site over others.

          We are also very close on our Links via Redirect work, so some of these sites will see a nice bump in link counts once we are able to pass that equity from the redirects they have.

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          • IanWatson
            IanWatson @NgEF last edited by

            If you could send your site to ianw@moz.com, I would be happy to take a look and talk to my team about BOTW.

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            • IanWatson
              IanWatson last edited by

              Hi Dawn,

              I want to bring your attention to an update I just added to this post. It seems there were some unexpected issues with the index update we released yesterday and scores should not have been affected as dramatically as they were. You were right to question and I am very sorry for the shock.

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              • dohertyjf
                dohertyjf @IanWatson last edited by

                Hi ian, for those of us interested can you share the issues that are causing this update to be rolled back? Also, I like many saw the update and have to explain things to clients and bosses, so it would Ben rest to get a post on the main blog about what’s changing and why things are fluctuating more than usual.

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                • IanWatson
                  IanWatson @dohertyjf last edited by

                  Hey John,

                  Some issues arose around Spam networks and Tumblr sites skewing the distribution. Over the last 12 months, these two types of sites outperformed (i.e., gained links and linking plds faster) most 'real' sites. This caused sites outside of these to appear to be trending down in DA, relative to the performance of those other networks. This makes sense, because this is precisely what spam networks are designed to do so, and tumblr.com is currently treated as a TLD, so it's easy for tumblr blogs to gain large numbers of linking PLDs (because they're free to create and link heavily to one another).

                  We do need to get this normalization work added to the index, but we need to do so in a way that does not allow these types of networks to have too much sway in the distribution. We will ensure that the communication of that change is clear and easy to communicate to other stakeholders for users.

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                  • dohertyjf
                    dohertyjf last edited by

                    Got it, thanks so much Ian!

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                    • GastonRiera
                      GastonRiera last edited by

                      Thanks for the update Ian!

                      Also read something in Twitter from Rand about this issue.

                      Its great to hear that Moz keeps track on the bugs and when they screw up, embrace the problem, do the best to solve it, even rolling back.
                      Keep up like this!

                      Best wishes.
                      GR

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