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    Google Index Status Falling Fast - What should I be considering?

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    • LauraSultan
      LauraSultan last edited by

      Any chance you can share the URL? That would make it much easier for someone to help in this forum. Without the URL, I can offer a few diagnostic questions.

      • Have the number of pages on the site remained the same and pages are being removed from the index? Or have you added more content, but the percentage in the index has decreased?
      • Have you checked your robots.txt file or page-level meta robots tag to see if you are blocking or noindexing anything?
      • Have you submitted an XML sitemap?  If so, check the XML sitemap to make sure what's being submitted should be indexed. It's possible to submit a sitemap that includes noindexed pages, especially with some automated tools.
      • Is it a large site? If so, check for issues that may affect crawl budget.
      • Have you changed any canonical tags?
      • Have you used the Fetch as Google tool to diagnose a specific URL?
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      • ThomasHarvey
        ThomasHarvey last edited by

        Just to echo what Laura has said, if you can share a URL that would be great so we can help you get to the source of the problem.

        Try running a tool like screamingfrog (https://www.screamingfrog.co.uk/seo-spider/) to check the issues above that Laura has mentioned, as doing a lot of those by hand can be quite time consuming.

        Also, do you have a drop in rankings with your pages falling out the index?

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        • Toby-Symec
          Toby-Symec last edited by

          <a name="_GoBack"></a>Sorry for the delay in response. Website is symectech.com

          We have fixed various issues including a noindex issue earlier this year but our index status is continuing to fall. However, the ranking seems to be improving week on week according to MOZ. Thanks.

          Tim

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          • ThomasHarvey
            ThomasHarvey @Toby-Symec last edited by

            Just going through Laura's list as a checklist for ones that are applicable:

            • Have you checked your robots.txt file or page-level meta robots tag to see if you are blocking or noindexing anything?

            Nothing that I can see, that's causing a major issue.

            • Is it a large site? If so, check for issues that may affect crawl budget.

            The main thing I can see is that the product urls and canonicals are different, is there anyway of listing the product urls as their canonical versions in the category?

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            • LauraSultan
              LauraSultan @ThomasHarvey last edited by

              The canonicals appear to be set up correctly, and I would not advise listing the product URLs as their canonicals in the category as suggested above. That will create duplicate URLs with the same content, which is exactly what canonical tags are designed to avoid.

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              • LauraSultan
                LauraSultan @Toby-Symec last edited by

                A reduction in the number of pages indexed does not necessarily mean something is wrong. In fact, it could mean that something is right, especially if your rankings are improving.

                How are you determining that only 80% of pages are indexed? Can you provide a specific URL that is not being indexed?

                If you made changes to your canonical tag, robots.txt , or meta robots tag, these could all cause a reduction in the number of pages being indexed.

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                • ThomasHarvey
                  ThomasHarvey @LauraSultan last edited by

                  What I've suggested will be avoiding these duplicate urls? Here's some actual examples, going via a tier two category I get the following product url:

                  https://www.symectech.com/epos-systems/customer-displays/pole-mounting-kit-94591.html

                  With a canonical of:

                  https://www.symectech.com/pole-mounting-kit-94614.html

                  Yet when going from https://www.symectech.com/epos-systems/?limit=32&p=2 (a tier 1 category) I get the canonical url.

                  So if there are products listed in multiple tier two categories then that's multiple urls for the same product. With the suggestion I made, there would only be one variation of this product url (the canonical)

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                  • LauraSultan
                    LauraSultan @ThomasHarvey last edited by

                    If I understand you correctly, you are referring to the following two URLs:

                    https://www.symectech.com/epos-systems/customer-displays/pole-mounting-kit-94591.html

                    https://www.symectech.com/pole-mounting-kit-94614.html

                    Both of these have the same canonical referenced, which is https://www.symectech.com/pole-mounting-kit-94614.html.

                    It doesn't matter what actually shows in the address box. For the purposes of indexation, what matters is what is referenced in the canonical tag.

                    .

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                    • ThomasHarvey
                      ThomasHarvey @LauraSultan last edited by

                      However, the canonical is only an advisory tag. I've had few cases where people have relied on their canonical tag when their site has numerous product url types (as above with category in the url and just product url) which has many references to these different urls elsewhere (onsite and offsite) and they are now indexed as both versions, which is not always ideal. It also means that reporting tools such as Screaming Frog only show the true URLs on the site. It's also saving crawl budget as it doesn't have to crawl the category produced url and the canonical url.

                      Whilst it's not a major issue, it's something I would look at changing.

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                      • LauraSultan
                        LauraSultan @ThomasHarvey last edited by

                        I would be interested in seeing examples of where this has happened. Were the canonical tags added after the URLs were already indexed or were the canonicals in place when the site launched?

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                        • davebuts
                          davebuts last edited by

                          Hi Tim,

                          I agree with Laura on the canonical tags. I've worked on several large Magento sites and I've never seen any issue with the way Magento handles it - by canonicalizing product URLs to the root directory.

                          In fact, I actually prefer this was over assigning a product to a 'primary' category and using that as the canonical.

                          As Laura said, a reduction in the total number of indexed pages might actually be a really big positive here! More pages indexed does not mean it's better. If they are low quality/duplicate pages that have been removed from index, that's a really good thing.

                          I did find some issues with your robots.txt file:

                          • Disallow: /media/ - should be removed because it's blocking images from being crawled (this is a default Magento thing and they should remove it!)
                          • Disallow: /? - this basically means that any URLs containing a ? will not be crawled and with the way pagination is setup on the site, this means that any pages after 1 are not being crawled.
                            This could be impacting how many product pages you have indexed - which would definitely be a bad thing! You would obviously want your product pages to be crawled and indexed.

                          Solution: I would leave Disallow: /? in robots.txt because it stops a product filter URLs being crawled, but I would add the following line:

                          Allow: */?p=

                          This line will allow your paginated pages to be crawled, which will also allow products linked from those pages to be crawled.

                          Hope this helps!

                          Cheers,

                          David

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                          • Toby-Symec
                            Toby-Symec @davebuts last edited by

                            Thanks dude, I will take a look at this. Really appreciate you taking time to respond.

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                            • Toby-Symec
                              Toby-Symec @LauraSultan last edited by

                              Thank you for taking so much time to look at our site. I really appreciate it. I will dig in to the points to see what we can achieve. Thanks again, Tim

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                              • Toby-Symec
                                Toby-Symec @ThomasHarvey last edited by

                                Hi dude, thank you so much for taking time to look at this site. It is really kind of you. I will be taking a look at all the points raised over the next week to see what we can achieve. Thanks, Tim

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