Turn grey myself or rat on black hat competitors?

[Netboost]

Come on, lets be honest for a sec, most SEOs are in the grayhat area - as essentially linkbuilding is a greyhat practice.

If you are getting links any other way than by creating great content on your site then you are involved in some shade of grey.

ethics has nothing to do with being blackhat, whitehat or greyhat - the only ethics involved is being honest to your clients, and letting them know the full scope of risk for various tactics - if a cleint requests blackhat techniques then I will provide them but only after explaining the risks and putting in place risk mitigation strategies - such as mutliple sites as mentioned above

[inhouseninja]

What Russ is talking about here is spot on. If you're not using "micro-sites" to test and rank you're not going to be able to keep up with the other guys. How are you going to test new methods and learn if you're scared you might enter a "gray" area with google?  Technically, ANY manipulation of Google by manually building links elsewhere is "gray".  SEO, in a sense, is inherently "gray".  So, to claim that your SEO tactics are 100% white-hat is a challenging statement to defend.

[duncan274]

It's good to hear that it's possible to beat quantity with quality ..any example's would be much appreciated!!!

[loopyal]

Google used to care if you told them about garbage sites.

I never used that against my competitors, but only on blatant spam,

then just over 2 years ago, google stopped listening to my reports.

The spam don't only stay there, it got worse.

After 3 months of them ignoring every request, I gave up reporting them.

[simvegas]

You can turn grey but use good original content (don't pollute the internet). Most blackhatters use automatically spun content which is gibberish then submit with automation tools.

{Set yourself a bit more time to create decent handspun content to use with the same automation tools and you will be beating them at their own game.|If you take the time to hand spin some original and quality content, then use those same tools to submit your content you have the ability to beat them with their own tactics.}

[InkCartridgesFast]

Russ right now I would high five you. I agree 100% with you.

[InkCartridgesFast]

Well said sir.

[conversiontactics]

Andy Any tips beside content content and content  any other tips for white had,also have u not done any sort of submission at all anywhere?

[MarketingOfAmerica]

I agree with you 100%

This is what you have to do in the financial industry or you will never get anywhere.  Many of our major clients have a very ethical site and a rinse and repeat site I like to call them.  This is the only way anymore.

Have a great day and a happy holiday.

MB

[Deacyde]

Who wins the race or the overall career?

[sjjani]

I always try to work with some white hat techniques to run my campaign of SEO on my new blog.