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    Why this site is not hit by google penguin only experts answer please

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    • Travis_Bailey
      Travis_Bailey @tanveerayakhan last edited by

      It's ranking due to pure spam.

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      • tanveerayakhan
        tanveerayakhan @Travis_Bailey last edited by

        O come on I know about it, but my question is why its ranking from about 3 years on first page first position. why Google not slapping it. Its a huge surprise for me as there are authority sites below it... amazing...

        Has any moz expert an answer to it????

        Is moz and majestic failed??? or lacking???

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        • Travis_Bailey
          Travis_Bailey @tanveerayakhan last edited by

          Yes, the domain is propped up by pure spam. Have you reported it to The Googles? Venting on the forums may feel nice, but it doesn't get anything done.

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          • MoosaHemani
            MoosaHemani last edited by

            I am in Pakistan and that is why I do check websites in rankings from time to time and I have to say that there are many niches and areas where Google still allow spammy websites especially when it comes to Google.com.pk (maybe because Google give less important in our area).

            The best idea is to report this URL to Google to bring this to their attention and may be in the next Google penguin update, this got hit.

            In my opinion, there is not much you cannot do other than reporting it to Google.

            Hope this helps!

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            • Travis_Bailey
              Travis_Bailey @MoosaHemani last edited by

              Are you sure about that? 😉

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              • tanveerayakhan
                tanveerayakhan @MoosaHemani last edited by

                Well that is also not appropriate answer as it is ranking in google.com too on first page....

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                • Travis_Bailey
                  Travis_Bailey @tanveerayakhan last edited by

                  What is?

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                  • MoosaHemani
                    MoosaHemani @Travis_Bailey last edited by

                    Not sure what exactly is a satisfactory answer to him 🙂 but as far as results in Google.com they are not always as per the guidelines. Type in “SEO Services” and you will find companies who are ranking on basis of blog comment spam.

                    But they are much better than what I use to see previous year!

                    I think Google is working hard to make their SERP results pure but they are 100% pure and as per the guidelines is not something I will agree with.

                    It’s a process and it will take time #iguess

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                    • ClaytonJ
                      ClaytonJ last edited by

                      Interesting had a look at the links.  Correct pure spam links. Ironically there is a nexus between some of the backlinks sites and the genre of the website pointed to - so I assume that is what is saving the site from a penguin penalty.

                      The traffic is not great. So tanveerayakhan I am not sure I can answer the question. In summary it is a black hat site with limited traffic ranking well.

                      I would try and defeat the site on it merits. Build up your domain authority.

                      Also have you tried contacting the sites where http://pkwebhost.com/ gets the links from? Try and get them deleted. If they are true spam sites - they will do anything for only a little money... a bit cheeky, but it seems you are aggrieved.

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                      • tanveerayakhan
                        tanveerayakhan @ClaytonJ last edited by

                        which backlinks you are saying about which you said are saving this site?

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                        • ClaytonJ
                          ClaytonJ last edited by

                          To be 100% I am not guaranteeing these links are saving the site however links like http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1377228 are related content.

                          Thus any IT, Hosting type links are related topics. Such type of links maybe outweighing the more obvious spam links.  Hope this assists.

                          I am not sure if anyone can take it further, it is a bit intuition and then a detailed comparison study between other sites on the SERP.

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                          • CleverPhD
                            CleverPhD last edited by

                            1. The site is ranking due to spammy links, this is why the site, despite having a "large" number of links has a low DA etc.

                            2. Why is it not hit with Penguin (corrected from Panda sorry typo)?  While Google is pretty good, it is not perfect.  People can still get away with this stuff (sad to say).  Also, Google does not roll out all updates to all countries that Google works in at the same time.  They have to account for things like differences in languages etc.  So, it could be possible that this site would not rank in Google US at this time, but maybe in other countries.

                            3. Word of advice.  Beggars can't be choosers.  Your question qualification of "expert answers only please", could be considered a little rude as most everyone on here is doing this for free and because they want to help other people in the community.  If you want expert advice only, then pay for a consultant, otherwise just be appreciative of the nice folks who are willing to chime in and hopefully point you in the right direction.

                            Cheers!

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                            • tanveerayakhan
                              tanveerayakhan @CleverPhD last edited by

                              Thank you for your response, as you mentioned Google can't role out in all countries but if I tell you this website is ranked in google.com too now what will be your answer.

                              and I asked for penguin not panda.

                              and I asked for experts because I am also the same level as you and the other 2 who answered here so all your answers are not logical. So please give any other reason you think it can be. Thanks. and I am not rude I knew its a hard question that why I said experts should answer.

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                              • MoosaHemani
                                MoosaHemani @CleverPhD last edited by

                                1. I absolutely agree with you!

                                2. Obviously i am not an expert but I tried to explain this point to him as per my knowledge and experience but i guess he want some "expert" to explain this to him.

                                3. Thank you for pointing this out as the tone was pretty much rude (to be atleast).

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                                • tanveerayakhan
                                  tanveerayakhan @MoosaHemani last edited by

                                  Dear Moosa have you any alternate solution???

                                  or you will focus on my words and say its rude 🙂

                                  please guys come on topic again.

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                                  • Andy.Drinkwater
                                    Andy.Drinkwater last edited by

                                    To be honest, with your 'tone' through here, telling people they are not experts and general manner, I would be surprised if anyone else would want to chip in. If they do, please try to keep this in mind.

                                    Remember, that everyone in here does it for their love of SEO and the MOZ community. Noone (other than MOZ employees) are paid to be on here, so perhaps don't call levels of proficiency in to question, because anyone answering is trying to help.

                                    -Andy

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                                    • DonnaDuncan
                                      DonnaDuncan @tanveerayakhan last edited by

                                      Tanveerayakhan,

                                      You have your answer.

                                      • http://goo.gl/Twp28T is NOT ranking on page 1 on google.com. (I searched for "web hosting Pakistan" incognito while in the US and it came up on page 2, #12.)
                                      • Google's algorithms are imperfect. http://goo.gl/Twp28T is ranking as well as it does due to known black hat tactics which haven't caught up with it yet.
                                      • If you want to out-do it, be patient, persist and "try and defeat the site on merits. Build up your domain authority."
                                      • You should watch your tone and maybe show some appreciation for those that are volunteering to help you. (Otherwise you'll stop getting suggestions.)
                                      • If you're not getting the answer you want, feel free to hire an expert. Moz does provide a list of recommended companies that provide consulting services.
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                                      • CleverPhD
                                        CleverPhD @tanveerayakhan last edited by

                                        Typo fixed on penguin vs panda.  There have been a lot of Panda updates lately and I have that on my brain.  Regardless of the algo mentioned, Google is not perfect and things slip through and they are not all rolled out in all countries at the same time.  Just a general FYI.

                                        I did not think you meant to be rude, just letting you know as some people may take the wrong way.

                                        Cheers!

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                                        • MarieHaynes
                                          MarieHaynes last edited by

                                          You've gotten some good responses so far. I'll add a couple of my thoughts.

                                          There are still LOTS of sites that can get away with spam and not get caught by Penguin. I haven't investigated this site, but it's possible that the links are on a private blog network that Penguin was not able to recognize as a link scheme.

                                          And who knows...perhaps they've got their bad links disavowed. It's also possible that Google is ranking this site because users tend to engage with it.

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                                          • UmarKhan
                                            UmarKhan last edited by

                                            Dear editors,

                                            This question has been answered, I think it should be closed now.

                                            Thanks,

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