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    • Moz.HelpTeam
      Moz.HelpTeam last edited by

      Great resources and feedback coming in from this super community! Nice job, everybody:)

      Competitive Research: I want to be sure we're understanding one fine but vital point here. Is your business local with a real physical address in the city of search?

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      • MiriamEllis
        MiriamEllis last edited by

        Oops - haha. That was me, signing in by accident under our Mozzer Alliance account instead of my own. So, the above reply is from me, and I'll look forward to reading your answer:)

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        • pallasart
          pallasart @Moz.HelpTeam last edited by

          THANK YOU!Yes, we use our address - but some of our competitors on our keywords don't - and they rank higher.  We can't figure that out.  One of our guys thought you might get a better position without an address. It's sure confusing.

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          • pallasart
            pallasart @calindaniel last edited by

            Thank you, Calin!

            We used the tool and are know looking at the results.  Schema addresses are very important? Is that exact format or where it comes from the key?

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            • pallasart
              pallasart @MiriamEllis last edited by

              I just posted something above.

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              • osaka73
                osaka73 last edited by

                Thank you everyone. Here is the URL: http://bit.ly/1PeSIo4

                Laura, when I said local, I was referring to local organic results.  Sorry for not being clear on that.

                I feel that the most relevant keyword is dueling pianos, as that is what are business is.

                Calin, thank you for that information.  Of course, now that I clarified that I meant google local organic results, it maybe change things a bit.

                Although our domain name does not include our keyword, I remember an article of Matt Cutts saying that this would not matter, and even that some sites would be penalized for exact match penalties.  Also, I do use schema markup, which I have verified in webmaster tools.

                We have a map page, as well.  We started using Yext, recently, as a "wallpaper" service more than anything else, to establish quick and easy consistency with our website, and google+.

                I appreciate any additional advice. And will certainly go through all the advice that has so far been presented.  Thank you!

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                • calindaniel
                  calindaniel @pallasart last edited by

                  It's both, Bob. Including the address in your footer and on your contact page marked up in Schema.org are important steps in the process.

                  In my opinion, Schema doesn't have as much of an impact as say creating and verifying a Google My Business account or acquiring authoritative local backlinks, however, it's a foundational item that I always implement. Plus, it's relatively easy to do.

                  Once the basic onsite optimization elements are in place, my next step is to evaluate a business's citations and the website's backlink profile. In my experience, 9 times out of 10, a ranking issue is caused by one of these two things. Messy citations or a lack of authority relative to your competitors.

                  There is a laundry list of information I could share, feel free to let me know if you're like specific recommendations in one area or another.

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                  • pallasart
                    pallasart @calindaniel last edited by

                    Thank you so much.  There are two of us working on this right now.  We are spending most of our time trying to solve our problems with our keyword listings. I'll ask my team member here for specific recommendations or problems we are having.  He's going trough your report right now so we can have our programmers implement it right away.  We really appraciate this - Bob

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                    • EGOL
                      EGOL @MiriamEllis last edited by

                      It's great to see appreciative people getting good advice.

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                      • pallasart
                        pallasart @pallasart last edited by

                        Calin: All our metrics are good and getting better.  We out rank our competitors on almost everything but can't move up.  My team member said the link on our page was not to the business Google+ account but to his personal one.  We did this months ago to get a picture on the search results - that's gone now. - I am sure they are other things we are doing wrong. If we get this fixed it will have a huge impact on our business. We have no black-hat back links (they I know of) and we try to do every right.  We will watch for every pearlof wisdome you can share with us.

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                        • pallasart
                          pallasart @EGOL last edited by

                          We are very appreciative of all this help.  We used toi use MOZ years ago - I don't remember the Q&A being so good and useful with so many topics.  It probably was.  This thread is so timely for us.

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                          • calindaniel
                            calindaniel @pallasart last edited by

                            I see what you mean. Relative to your competitors your website has a lot of link authority. So, that’s likely not the issue.

                            Since your website is optimized correctly, for the most part, I would put it in one of two categories. Either you have a citation problem or you have an anchor text problem.

                            I would start by doing an audit of your business’s citations. Lean Marketing has a nice guide for performing a citation audit. You can also use tools such as Whitespark or BrightLocal if you have the funds to shell out for software. The objective is to find incorrect references to your business's NAP (Name, Address and Phone Number) and to correct them if possible. Consistency in your citation sources is key.

                            Next, I would review your website’s anchor text relative to your competitors. Anchor text has become a scary topic since manual and algorithmic penalties hit the news, however, I’ve found that acquiring a few links with your keywords in the anchor text can have a big impact on your website’s rankings. Just proceed with caution. Never build oodles of links with exact match anchor text, diversification is key.

                            If neither of these work, I would consider hiring a local SEO consultant to go through your accounts with a fine tooth comb. There may be other issues related to your Google My Business account, citations, business address, or location.

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                            • calindaniel
                              calindaniel @osaka73 last edited by

                              Osaka73,

                              Thanks for sharing, it’s certainly helpful in understanding the challenge you’re facing.

                              Before I jump into my recommendations, I thought I’d take a moment to address your concern about including keywords in your domain. I’ve never experienced an issue with including keywords in a domain name. In fact, in almost every case I’ve experienced a boost in the website’s ranking for related terms and phrases. Matt gently nudges people away from techniques that can be manipulated, however, I still believe there is value in using it selectively as part of an SEO strategy.

                              As for the ranking difficulties you’re experiencing, I think they can be broken down into two areas.

                              Local Content

                              The content on the location pages is somewhat thin and in some cases close to being duplicate content. It’s understandable as you’re attempting to share the same message but market it to multiple locations.

                              I would focus my efforts on creating unique content for these pages. A few years back Phil Rozek wrote an excellent article on creating unique local content that is worth reviewing. You may also want to check out the recent article Mike Ramsey wrote on developing a local content strategy.

                              This, above anything else, will have the biggest impact on your local page rankings.

                              Local/Niche Links

                              Secondly, I believe the other obstacle you’re currently facing is in regards to your backlinks. I ran an OSE report for a few of your internal pages and for the most part they do not have any links.

                              In reality, your campaign isn’t truly a Local SEO campaign, it’s an organic SEO campaign. And, your internal pages just don’t have enough authority to outrank the home pages of some of your competitors. Not to mention, it’s also likely why you’re seeing black hat link spam outrank your website.

                              I’d recommend you focus on building links to your city and state pages, using anchor text when appropriate (just proceed with caution and don’t overdue the anchor text). This should help to increase the authority and rankings of your pages.

                              Search Engine Watch has a nice article on tips for building local links.

                              Best of luck with your website.

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                              • osaka73
                                osaka73 last edited by

                                Thank you very much for taking the time to look into this.  I appreciate your answer very much.  Improving our city and state pages has been on our "to-do" list for a while now.  So that will likely get a nice bump up on the priority list.

                                I feel confident that we can and ARE performing better overall than our competitors.  We have more content, and traffic comping from a wider variety of keywords.

                                But it was the homepage performance that has been perplexing to me.  It is somewhat of a splash page limited in content.  But many of our competitors have a similar homepage.

                                I do understand that if you add air to the floats, it raises the entire ship (that's the only analogy I have at the moment) so by improving our city and state pages, I suspect there would be some effect as well for our homepage with the main and most relevant keyword.

                                But are there any other suggestions or explanations as to how we can rank better with our homepage on that particular keyword.  Or why some of our competitors who aren't doing a very good job, are managing to outrank us with that keyword and their homepage?

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                                • pallasart
                                  pallasart @calindaniel last edited by

                                  Thank you so much Calin, we really appreciate all your help!!!

                                  One additional question that you might have an opinion on:

                                  On our website the main menu bar is at the top of all the secondary pages, but on the HOME page the main menu is near the bottom because we wanted visitors to focus on the home page content first.

                                  We weren't sure if it made a difference to Google that the main menu was under the content (at the bottom) on the home page

                                  From an SEO  perspective would it be better to have the main menu on the home page at the TOP to be consistent with the secondary pages?

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                                  • calindaniel
                                    calindaniel @osaka73 last edited by

                                    Osaka73,

                                    I feel like we're making progress!

                                    I ran a quick Keyword Difficulty report for "dueling pianos" and from it an OSE report of the top ranking websites.

                                    The top ranking business websites (excluding Wikipedia and image search) are:

                                    • http://www.howlatthemoon.com/the-show/
                                    • http://www.petesduelingpianobar.com/
                                    • http://www.2grandentertainment.com/
                                    • http://www.pointstreetpianos.com/

                                    Interesting to note, your website has higher Domain Authority, MozRank and MozTrust by comparison. Whenever I see this, and to be honest it happens a lot, my gut reaction is that your website has a relevance issue. That is to say, Google isn't associating your website with the keyword you're attempting to rank for. Or at the very least, the algo believes your competitors are more relevant.

                                    You may be scratching your head saying, well we get an "A" grade using the On-Page Grader (you do, by the way, I checked) however, the grader only takes into consideration onsite factors. It doesn't account for offsite factors and some secret sauce items related to your content.

                                    As I mentioned in my previous post, I still believe your path to SERP domination revolves around your content and the development of your backlink profile.

                                    For example, here's a what search engines seeing when they crawl your website.  Not much in terms of content for the spiders to latch onto. I would start by giving Googlebot what it wants, and what it wants its long form, authoritative content.

                                    Next, the other challenge is in your backlink profile, specifically your anchor text and the relevance of your link sources. I reviewed an OSE backlink report and only two of your keywords include "dueling pianos" in the anchor text. Contrast this with some of your competitors and who have it in their business name, and, therefore, a majority of their anchor text.

                                    These days anchor text can be scary; even the concept of link building has received a tarnished reputation, but I would bet my bottom dollar that the ranking issues you're experiencing are due to these two items.

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                                    • calindaniel
                                      calindaniel @pallasart last edited by

                                      Hi Bob,

                                      I don't believe the location of your menu would cause ranking issues assuming, of course, that Google can crawl the links.

                                      However, if you have reason to believe your rankings may have been impacted by the location of the menu I'd recommend testing it. That's the only way you can be certain.

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                                      • osaka73
                                        osaka73 last edited by

                                        Great information!  Thanks!  I will act on this and make some progress.

                                        I can't believe our h1 tag (all this time) has been seen as one word FingersDueling Pianos!

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