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    • MiriamEllis
      MiriamEllis @SSFCU last edited by

      Hi Sarah,

      That's a good question. To my mind, a block of text would just be a big chunk of city names, zip codes or what have you. You see junk like this on homepages and in footers all the time on over-optimized websites. I would, personally, consider this to be different than something like:

      Our painters are centrally located in San Jose and will come to you in Dublin, Berkeley and San Lorenzo, too. Check out our latest projects in Mountain House and Cupertino.

      There's probably some grey area here. If you've got 30 service cities, I wouldn't try to list them anywhere but the nav menu. If you've got five, I can't imagine it would cause any problems to mention them in the text of a page.

      This is, of course, my take - not necessary Google's.

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      • MiriamEllis
        MiriamEllis last edited by

        Hi Trevogre,

        Thanks for the further details. My advice is not to create blank pages on your website, regardless of nofollow. Similarly, my advice is not to create pages with nothing more than a form and call to action on them. If I saw a website with 10 pages on it consisting of nothing but a form and a call to action, I would consider that to be of low quality, regardless of nofollow.

        Regarding Google's search results, unfortunately, our personal beliefs about what makes a high quality result do not always match Google's beliefs. I get what you are saying about making queries with the hope of being returned the highest quality page, regardless of location. The problem is, if Google doesn't understand your intent, they will show you things you weren't looking for. There isn't really any way for you, on your own, to influence Google's  take on quality and relevance, apart from the fact that Google may personalize results for you based on your past search habits. So, I do get where you're coming from on this. There just isn't really anything I know of that you can do about it. Hope this helps!

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        • SSFCU
          SSFCU @MiriamEllis last edited by

          ... and if your 5-city example did become a duplicate content concern, wouldn't Moz Analytics highlight it?

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          • MiriamEllis
            MiriamEllis @SSFCU last edited by

            Hi SEOSarah,

            Duplicate content on multiple pages is not the same as repetition of something within a single page, so I'm not sure if I'm understanding your question.

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            • SSFCU
              SSFCU @MiriamEllis last edited by

              [slaps forehead]

              Nevermind. I was thinking Moz could detect if it was suspect, but that's just for duplicate content.

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              • Olvtr
                Olvtr @MiriamEllis last edited by

                Thanks for your helpful responses, Miriam! Would I be able to see a website or two where you implemented your two main types of pages( Service description and City Landing), so I have a little better picture of how it is done? Thanks again!

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                • MiriamEllis
                  MiriamEllis @Olvtr last edited by

                  Hi Llewellyn!

                  So sorry, but I'm not at liberty to share that. I do recommend you check out the major retailer REI.com to see how nicely they create their various city landing pages though. A fav example of mine.

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                  • Olvtr
                    Olvtr @MiriamEllis last edited by

                    No problem! Thanks for the info!

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                    • Aman_123
                      Aman_123 @MiriamEllis last edited by

                      Thanks Miriam, you really shared valuable tips how the multiple location should be treated and serve the BEST

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                      • EcommerceSite
                        EcommerceSite @MiriamEllis last edited by

                        With the recent update to Doorway pages would you consider changing your original post? Or still go with that?

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                        • MiriamEllis
                          MiriamEllis last edited by

                          Hi There!

                          I just responded over on your other thread, but wanted to include think link for you to a thread I started when Google announced their doorway pages update:

                          http://moz.com/community/q/how-google-s-doorway-pages-update-affects-local-seo

                          I hope you'll find that helpful!

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                          • DeNardo
                            DeNardo last edited by

                            Hello Miriam

                            as far as these landing pages.

                            what type of content is a good rule of thumb?

                            I'm guessing the purpose of a geo-specific landing page is to show relevance to an area for a site that is already an authority. I just got my first gig for SEO and it is for a moving company www.buyabuddyllc.com if that helps.

                            Should we get a local phone number and an address (local partner)?
                            Should we write about moving to the desired location and the best places to live there? Can you reference a good city landing page for a physical service company?

                            Also one of the guides I have found focuses on a lot of back linking and press releases, then that SEO provider just drops a block of h4 cities. I don't understand why this works for him.
                            Is it a brute force thing? targetupinsurance.com is the site he did this on. Also, at getbellhops.com, they have these simple landing pages with duplicate content. I don't understand how this site is ranking so well with so much duplicate content.

                            The site I'm working on is first on google for all of the most competitive keywords for the third largest city in our state. Would it be a good idea to target the next city down for quick results?

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                            • Moz.HelpTeam
                              Moz.HelpTeam last edited by

                              (This is Miriam replying but I'm in Mozzer Alliance right now)

                              Hi Michael!

                              I think the most important thing here is for you to give yourself a crash course in Local SEO. This is a good place to start: <cite class="_Rm">https://moz.com/learn/local</cite>

                              It's vital to understand that your client's local pack rankings are going to relate solely to their physical location. So, if they've got 1 physical location, that means 1 Google My Business listing and 1 set of citations for that location only. You do not want to acquire extra phone numbers or virtual addresses of any kind. Only the real, physical location can be promoted as a contender for Google local pack rankings, unless you live in a very rural area or have a very niche business. Instead, you are in a competitive industry in a large city. So, main thing is to remember that physical address = local pack rankings. All other service cities = organic rankings.

                              So, yes, you do need a physical address. The phone number doesn't have to be local, but it's considered preferable by some. I don't see any mention of an address on the site right now, so that's something you'll need to address with the client. If the company does not have a dedicated public address, you can use the home address of the business owner and then, when creating the Google My Business page, be sure to choose the service area business settings that signal to Google to keep the address hidden. Regardless, it's advisable to have the complete name, address and phone number (NAP) of the business on the Contact Us page and the website footer.

                              The site architecture you'll be building out for the moving company will likely consist of basic pages (home, about, contact, etc.) a page for each service (moving, piano moving, what have you) and a page for each major city you serve. The content on these service city landing pages must be unique and of the highest possible quality you can create. This might include text content, video content, images, testimonials, tips, safety warnings, etc. But, again, be sure to warn the client that you do not want to use virtual addresses on these pages or anything like that. Don't be swayed by competitors who are seeming to get away with thin or duplicate landing pages. This is not the way to go and it makes them weak - you can hope to surpass them with a superior effort.

                              I'm not sure what you're describing about the links/press releases and blocks of cities. Google's Webmaster Guidelines do not want blocks of city names/zip codes anywhere on your website, so I'm not quite sure what it was that you saw.

                              Finally, yes, you may have a better chance of achieving higher organic rankings in smaller cities more quickly, because the competition is likely to be lower, but achieving this is going to be a combination of time + effort. It's much better to under-promise and over-deliver, specifically as this is your first job.

                              Hopefully the Moz Local learning center will get you off to a good start, and we have tons of great content in the Local column of the Moz blog. https://moz.com/blog/category/local-seo

                              Good luck with the project!

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                              • DeNardo
                                DeNardo @Moz.HelpTeam last edited by

                                Thank you so much!!!

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                                • MiriamEllis
                                  MiriamEllis last edited by

                                  My pleasure, Michael!

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