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    Google's Mobile Update: What We Know So Far (Updated 3/25)

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    • MonicaOConnor
      MonicaOConnor last edited by

      Any further news on a mobile index? Realistically, how can this update not affect search results if there is no mobile index in place? I would be curious to see the results in m.domains and /mobile folders vs responsive design. Previously, Google said there would be no ranking difference, that the mobile experience was the most important part of this update, but I have a sneaking suspicion that the responsive designs may do slightly better than the other mobile versions of sites.

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      • EricaMcGillivray
        EricaMcGillivray last edited by

        Thanks, Pete! 😄

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        • MonicaOConnor
          MonicaOConnor @donford last edited by

          A little selfishly, I am glad that there wasn't too much notice given. No one else in my industry has a mobile friendly site, so this will be huge for my company. Shame on me, lol.

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          • Dr-Pete
            Dr-Pete @MonicaOConnor last edited by

            It's unclear whether this is some kind of re-ranking layer (and those certainly are in play today for local and other factors) or if mobile pages will get a separate index. As this gets more complex, though, and they want to do more with it, my gut feeling is that we may see the index split. I doubt they'll give us much more info on that topic for now, though - they like to keep details of the index pretty well guarded.

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            • Travis_Bailey
              Travis_Bailey last edited by

              I'm in the middle of a freebie deal for a mom & pop, simply because all of their local competitors aren't 'mobile friendly'. They aren't in the most affluent area, and rely on foot traffic, so it's safe to say that mobile results are critical. Hopefully I can get everything launched soon.

              I'm not promising them the moon. I've made my motivations clear. It's a bit of my own curiosity mixed with the warm fuzzies I get from turning the 'little guy' into a beast among 'little guys'.

              I'm certain there are measurable ways to be 'mobile friendlier than thou'. I just don't think it would be terribly ethical to knowingly hold back with a 'live subject'. Ah well, I'm sure there's something in there for IMEC.

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              • WickVideo
                WickVideo last edited by

                Great resource, Pete! Really interested to see how mobile and desktop search results will differ.

                Also, thanks for the link to Google's Mobile-Friendly Test - I hadn't seen that yet.

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                • donford
                  donford @MonicaOConnor last edited by

                  You make a very good point. It is kind of like a little reward for those like yourself who have been proactive and adaptive without being told to be. Kudos,

                  Don

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                  • WhatUpHud
                    WhatUpHud last edited by

                    Thanks for giving a summary of yesterday's G+ hangout 🙂 Super informative. Frankly, I'm a little excited about this mobile update. Since it seems like desktop and mobile rankings will now begin to diverge, I imagine more tools will surface that tracks a site's mobile rankings (hint hint Moz 😉

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                    • CDUBP
                      CDUBP last edited by

                      One thing you didn't cover that I'm curious about is: Would it be better to serve a separate mobile page or to make the entire website responsive?

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                      • MonicaOConnor
                        MonicaOConnor @CDUBP last edited by

                        Right now, Google is saying there is not a difference between the two, however, I think most people would say that Responsive is the way to go.

                        I think the only thing that could hinder that thought is if the responsive design couldn't produce enough functionality or visual appeal to have a good user experience. Some stores just have too many product options to really make a responsive design work, so they use a mobile version of the site. Google likes uniformity, which I why most people prefer the responsive design.

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                        • RyanPurkey
                          RyanPurkey @CDUBP last edited by

                          Another consideration: if someone links to a responsive site--whether it was from mobile or non--the link would remain the same. That should help as well. That way there's less need to prompt users to "Switch to Desktop" or vice versa.

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                          • SanjidaKazi
                            SanjidaKazi @MonicaOConnor last edited by

                            Agreed Monica

                            I'm looking forward to this update lol!

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                            • Orbiteer
                              Orbiteer @Dr-Pete last edited by

                              Hey, Pete!

                              Long time no see! (This is Amanda from Orbit posing as Andy 😉

                              Thanks for the Q&A's. I have another quick question. If a site is fully fluid and it's still not passing Google's Mobile-Friendly test through their tool, will Google not label this as "mobile-friendly" in search results?

                              I've been running into this on a few client sites and the actual "issue" is usually within a blog post on the website. An image not sized to standards or something small like that or the font size is too small.

                              Just wondering what your thoughts are on that? Thanks much!

                              Amanda

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                              • Christy-Correll
                                Christy-Correll @Travis_Bailey last edited by

                                Nice, Travis! I'm eager to find out how this project turns out. (I'm sure our YouMoz readers would be as well, ahem.) 😉

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                                • Christy-Correll
                                  Christy-Correll @Orbiteer last edited by

                                  Hi, Amanda! In the cases where you have identified the issue to be within a particular blog post, do the other pages on the same site pass the mobile-friendly test when you enter the URLs one at time? And are any of those same pages showing the mobile-friendly label in the mobile SERPs?

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                                  • Christy-Correll
                                    Christy-Correll last edited by

                                    Dr. Pete, thanks so much for putting this Q&A together. I particularly love your no-nonsense answer to whether this will be a boost or a demotion (Q4). "...practically it doesn't matter that much and the difference can be very difficult to measure. If everyone gets moved to the front of the line except you, you're still at the back of the line." Well said!

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                                    • Dr-Pete
                                      Dr-Pete @Orbiteer last edited by

                                      Unfortunately, I'm hearing reports that different validation methods are producing slightly different results. It's likely that some pages that don't pass the test will be ok, but I hate to tell anyone to just hope for the best. You might also want to check the mobile usability report in Google Webmaster Tools.

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                                      • Bryan_Loconto
                                        Bryan_Loconto last edited by

                                        Great post Doc! Tons of takeaways here 😃

                                        But I mean... at the end of the day are there really people out there just waiting around for Google to say "HEY EVERYBODY! Its time to make your website mobile friendly now!!"

                                        And are we really doing things based on what Google wants us to do or are we gearing our sites for our USERS? Google is an important piece of the puzzle of course but I feel that staying in the good graces of our visitors far outweighs anything else.

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                                        • RyanPurkey
                                          RyanPurkey @Bryan_Loconto last edited by

                                          I think these changes have the backing of tons of user data--way beyond what we would have access to individually--and a lot of sites are completely in the dark still about mobile usability.  Like the majority of sites on the web are happy with the status quo as long as it's working for them.

                                          People do however look at search traffic, income, etc. When they see a sudden drop in that, they'll come around asking why. In the long view many more sites will become much more user friendly after this change.

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                                          • Bryan_Loconto
                                            Bryan_Loconto @RyanPurkey last edited by

                                            Great point Ryan! I guess my initial thoughts on it are not the same as the average website owner that just goes along for the ride and hopes for the best. But thinking further into it, you're right. I am sure there are plenty of people out there just getting by with what they have. Makes perfect sense 😃

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