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    Google smacked my site and dropped all rankings, can't find out why

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    • MickEdwards
      MickEdwards @MoosaHemani last edited by

      yep, didn't even get to anchor text.  Absolutely right, this has been spanked for all the reasons you can get spanked.

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      • Travis_Bailey
        Travis_Bailey last edited by

        I would say this has more to do with off-page tactics. Though the on-page could use some work. The site has only been live for a little over a year. A lot of the links the site had appeared to have gone in August, per crawl.

        That's actually a good thing. You're going to learn about over-optimized anchor text. In short, don't do what has happened.

        The vast majority of the anchor text for the links were 'xyz brass'. These aren't competitive terms, so a few links went a long way. Now the majority of the few links are gone. Thus the rankings are down.

        It looks like you can still do pretty well taking a semi-local approach, from a links perspective. The local approach is generally clean. Claim your business listings, include enough relevant information - rinse, lather and repeat. That should help some.

        Now, the one thing that appears to be discounted is the fact that shooting/reloading has a wide and passionate audience. There's a lot that can be done there to gain legit links. One just has to be a little creative.

        I understand shooting. I like a lot of the military guns, especially curio & relics. I know not to buy combloc ammunition with brass casings from the 50's-60's. Shooting squibs or generally having a receiver or slide blow up in my face is not my idea of fun.

        That being said, I think you should definitely start targeting more 'reloading' keyword variants. That's what the site is there for, right? I have to disagree with the '9mm brass casings for sale' example. (Sorry David. I know it was just an example. Still bros? Good.) 'Once fired caliber brass' is definitely a better target. It's what you're selling, it has some volume and it isn't terribly competitive.

        David is most definitely correct about the WWW version of the site and HTTPS. You should get that redirect fixed, ASAP.

        The images you do have look fine to me, in regard to file names. You have the caliber and the keyword in there. They also have alt attributes that make sense enough. Though some of the images are on the large side, in regard to file size. Having the image dimensions of the image in the file name is actually a recommended practice as well. Folders with the month and year is really a quibbling point, but some could argue that numbers in the URL (within reason) increase the speed of the on-site DB query for a visitor.

        There are some of the finer points you can definitely fix, but I think this mainly boils down to:

        1. Newer site
        2. Lost links
        3. Over-optimized Anchor Text (And lost over-optimized anchors text.)

        And yes, the site should show me some casings before nearly the bottom of a 1920x1080 display.

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        • DougRoberts
          DougRoberts @MoosaHemani last edited by

          Got to say I'm totally with Moosa on this one. Your link profile is a significant weakness.

          I would start by looking at your business relationships/partnerships etc and see if you can get branded links from other sites related to your niche. There's little other content on your site that will learn more general/broader links. (There's no blog/resource/faq pages etc.)

          Even though the link may be using branded anchor text, they are still coming from topically relevant sites.

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          • s-s
            s-s @Travis_Bailey last edited by

            Travis,

            EDIT: I believe that issue is fixed and I am working on the rest.

            thanks for the info, nice to meet a fellow shooter 🙂

            I have been trying to re-produce the redirect errors for the www and can't seem to find them.

            Could you give me some detail as to how you saw that issue.

            Thanks

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            • s-s
              s-s @David-Kley last edited by

              David,

              thank you so much for your time and detailed explanation. It is very much appreciated.

              For the first point, we don't only sell rifle cases, we sell all cases, be it rifle, pistol or revolver.

              I will look into everything today and keep everyone posted. As far as I know the 99 urls, are actually only 45, since I have some no index in there and have removed "empty" pages from google a few months back to make sure not to get penalized for thin content.

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              • David-Kley
                David-Kley @s-s last edited by

                Not a problem! I'm aware that you sell more than one type, I just used the rifle casings as an example. Also, looks like the SSL redirect is working now. Once you get some of the items fixed and resubmitted in webmaster tools, you should see some fluxuation in your rankings. Glad I could help 😉

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                • s-s
                  s-s @David-Kley last edited by

                  I know this is a stupid question to ask, considering that every little bit makes a difference with Google, but do you believe that the redirect would have been such a huge influence in the rank drop?

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                  • David-Kley
                    David-Kley @s-s last edited by

                    It could be, if the redirect was not done correctly. Also it can take time for Google to realize a change has been made. I remember when we redesigned our whole site, and saw a ranking drop for about 2 months, then we came back stronger than ever. The one thing you don't want to do is freak out and change a lot of things at once when you are still unsure what caused the drop. It might be a good idea to take a hard look at the competitors sites that ranked up for your keywords, and do a backlink profile on their domains. It's one easy way to see why Google is ranking them so well.

                    I would make sure that all the old pages have a place to go, even if that means going through the site search in google and clicking on each URL. This will tell you if you have any dead or 404 pages not covered by a redirect. I know that people are changing to the SSL to try and rank since Google announced it could help, but you still have to make sure your pages redirect properly. Drop this in your URL bar and see what pages dont go anywhere: site:eastcoastarsenal.com/

                    Depending on your location focus, I would also look and see what citation profiles your competitors have.

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                    • David-Kley
                      David-Kley @Travis_Bailey last edited by

                      Its cool, we're still bros lol. I understand what you mean, I was just giving him an example of what to look for, or how to optimize for his search audience. Honestly the best way would be to run an Adwords campaign for a month, and look at the Dimentions>search terms to see how people are searching for his products. Could also use the keyword planner, but I have found that to be...lacking in some areas.

                      I agree in that one of the most important areas to look into would be the backlink profile, as it seems that he is losing authority to his competition.

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                      • s-s
                        s-s @David-Kley last edited by

                        David,

                        you are right, an Adwords campaign would help me find the right terms and also get me much more traffic, but unfortunately Google does not allow us to advertise on their platform due to our products being prohibited (google policy).

                        I even had build up an automated feed for google shopping, but again they don't allow us to be a part of it. Even for google trusted stores, we were declined.

                        So I am fighting a battle like others, but I am not allowed to use all the same tools.

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                        • David-Kley
                          David-Kley @s-s last edited by

                          https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=used%20shell%20casings

                          There has to be a way. If you search for used shell casings on Google, other sites show ads and product feeds. What was the exact error message you received when trying to submit your ads?

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                          • s-s
                            s-s @David-Kley last edited by

                            David,

                            you are absolutely right, there are ads popping up here and there. Mainly people selling over amazon.com and etsy, but very rarely are there any direct ads from my competition.

                            There was no error message, as we did not even go ahead and submitted it due to this:

                            https://support.google.com/adwordspolicy/answer/6014299

                            It has gotten so ridiculous that even if one day I want to run a blog with info only and place ads, I'm not allowed to show any adsense ads

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                            • David-Kley
                              David-Kley @s-s last edited by

                              I would try it anyway, but maybe I'm just stubborn, lol.

                              http://searchengineland.com/google-weapon-listings-shopping-search-126487

                              Perhaps since you are selling casings, and not "ammunition" per say, you may be able to get your ads showing. Either that or just spend 5 minutes on the phone with Google adwords help. I'm sure they would be able to let you know what your are eligible to advertise. 1-866-246-6453

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                              • s-s
                                s-s @David-Kley last edited by

                                You might actually be a little stubborn 🙂 me too, tho.

                                I called months ago, spoke to different people, legal team even called back one day and they said, unfortunately they don't allow that type of product, even it not being loaded rounds.

                                I said... well if you don't want my money, what can I do. 🙂

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                                • s-s
                                  s-s @MoosaHemani last edited by

                                  Moosa,

                                  I am currently looking into it.

                                  One thing I know for sure is that a lot of my links dropped, because I stopped using the individuals that were building links for me.

                                  I know what needs to be done on that end.

                                  Thank you for your insight

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