Lose of rankings

[summer300]

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[KeriMorgret]

In Google Webmaster Tools, if you view the site as Googlebot, can you see anything? Or does Google only see the information that you need to download flash?

[eugenecomputergeeks]

WHAT the heck. I wrote a LONG response and it didn't display.  Ugh should have copied and pasted it.  Anyways.  Does the new site have flash objects on it?  Are the Title and H1 tags the same as before?  Google can't read objects like images and flash objects because it crawls in a textual browser called Lynx.

I believe Webmaster Tools has a feature still that lets you view it in Lynx.  Most people can't get it because its a Linux program, but I install it on Mac OS X easily with homebrew or macports. Portableapps has a copy of it which is a Windows program that lets you run hundreds of different programs without installing them.  (I use it at work as I have like 80 programs all on one little USB.)  http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/lynx-portable

If you want I'd send you what your site looks like too, if its allowed.  Once you see the site in the program, remember that Google reads Top to bottom and left to right and gives prevalence in this manner.   Did a lot or any of the text change on any of the pages?

Lastly, do you have flash installed?  If you are getting the flash error in Google Chrome for instance that's not good as Chrome has flash integrated, so you should NEVER see a message saying you need to download it.

I'd focus on what has changed, especially the most important parts... the Title tag, the H1 tag and that its placed right, and the overall text throughout the site.

[KeriMorgret]

We're doing site maintenance right now, and while things overall have been stable, there have been a couple of blips to the database. Tonight's the first time in many, many months I've encountered losing a reply. For the next couple of hours, to be on the safe side, it'd be good to copy your response.

[eugenecomputergeeks]

Thanks! I was super careful and is why I didn't copy, as I usually write all my stuff in Evernote or Google Docs anyways even if more than 2 paragraphs.   Hopefully my first response will come back as it was much better. Oh well.

[KeriMorgret]

I wanted to clarify a couple of things here. Googlebot is similar to Lynx, but googlebot is not the same as Lynx. In Google Webmaster Tools, you want the Fetch as Google tool, which is detailed at https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/158587.

Here's an interesting copy of a post from 2003 that discusses the differences between Lynx and Googlebot http://www.webcitation.org/getfile?fileid=cd1fe6fc9744f101de6473371a65a098b47d42c0.

Can you give some background information and links about the way Google crawls and "gives prevalence"? Not quite sure what you're trying to say here.

Thanks!

[eugenecomputergeeks]

My first post I actually mentioned that there are some differences but its virtually the same thing as Lynx.  Google says this themselves in countless places including the link in my last post.  Thanks for the 2003 link though on the differences as I didn't know what they were.

What I was saying was Google gives more prevalence to keywords that are higher up on the page or that are to the left.

For example if you want to rank really well for "Flag Burning" and its my targeted keyterm, I'd want the term on the top of the page in the title tag all the way to the left.  I'd also probably have it in the H1 tag if possible, and to the left as possible.  I'd mention the term more towards the top of the page too, and then at the bottom I'd change it up more like in text content I'd say "burning flags" instead of "flag burning"

It's been shown in many tests that Id have better chances to ranking better if my Title tag featured "Flag Burning" in it first and to the left. Lets say my site is a free speech site and the domain is fakefreespeech.fakecom I'd personally make the title tag something like "Flag Burning | Is it wrong? | FakeFreeSpeech.fakecom"

(and this has been proven in a gazillion tests, do I really need to find a link?) I thought it was pretty much not even debatable that Google thinks that things to the left and higher up on the page generally more important.  Does what I"m saying sort of make sense?  Sorry I'm not good with communicating or writing.

[summer300]

I will have a look thanks

[summer300]

Thank you for your response i appreciate it. Title tags and H1 are the same (my keyword target) I do not to add in some of the content from the previous site. I am just wetting up webmaster tools now. I just thought it really weird that the website says at the top of the page "site requires adobe flash for correct display" I have never seen that before. The site is www.bestautomotive.co.nz

[eugenecomputergeeks]

Page Specific Metrics: See which metrics are affecting the pages on your site.

I forgot to mention if you want an instant answer to a sites credibility, focus on the Page|MosTrust which from Aug 5th has always been the best indicator.  ESPECIALLY the "PageMozTrust".  There is another new site called web reputation but I haven't tried it yet.

If you do a two minute Google search for "{company name} scam OR ripoff"  (make sure to not have anything in double quotes and where it says company name, and make sure the "OR" is capitalized as that tells Google to search all pages that have the company name and then the words "scam or "refund".

Please let me know if you have any other questions.

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[summer300]

Should I be looking in "fetch as google" ?

[KeriMorgret]

Yep!