The Moz Q&A Forum

    • Forum
    • Questions
    • My Q&A
    • Users
    • Ask the Community

    Welcome to the Q&A Forum

    Browse the forum for helpful insights and fresh discussions about all things SEO.

    1. SEO and Digital Marketing Q&A Forum
    2. Categories
    3. Intermediate & Advanced SEO
    4. My Website Has a Google Penalty, But I Can't Disavow Links

    My Website Has a Google Penalty, But I Can't Disavow Links

    Intermediate & Advanced SEO
    15 6 214
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as question
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • Philip-DiPatrizio
      Philip-DiPatrizio last edited by

      That "update" line you posted a screen shot of means you have an https version of your website.  Are you sure you've got the right version verified in Webmaster Tools?  If you've verified http but not https, or vice versa, verify the other one.  You might be able to see the backlinks in Webmaster Tools on the other version.

      You can read more about this recent Google Webmaster Tools update here: http://searchenginewatch.com/article/2337524/Google-Webmaster-Tools-Gives-More-Precise-Index-Status-Data

      Update us with what you find once you look into that a bit!

      0102345 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • 0102345
        0102345 @Philip-DiPatrizio last edited by

        I don't have that version of the site...If I try to go to https://website I get an "SSL connection error"

        Philip-DiPatrizio JaneCopland 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • Philip-DiPatrizio
          Philip-DiPatrizio @0102345 last edited by

          There's a chance I'm wrong about this.  Maybe EVERY site shows that "update" line, regardless of whether or not an https version was found by Google....

          Try a "site:" search on Google for both variations.

          • site:https://example.com
          • site:http://example.com

          edit:  "if you have a website on HTTPS, or if some content is indexed under different subdomains."  You'll see the "update" line if you've got multiple sub-domains as well.  So that's likely what's happening in your scenario.

          0102345 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • 0102345
            0102345 @Philip-DiPatrizio last edited by

            Alright...weird...the search results show some https but when I click on them I get the "SSL Connection Error"

            0102345 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • 0102345
              0102345 @0102345 last edited by

              This post is deleted!
              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • Philip-DiPatrizio
                Philip-DiPatrizio last edited by

                Can you pinpoint the approximate date that the traffic dropped significantly?  Look for a Penguin update that's near that time frame using this page: http://moz.com/google-algorithm-change

                If you don't see a Penguin update near your drop in traffic, AND you don't have a manual penalty, you might have another issue.  Possibly a Panda penalty or just some other site health issue that caused the drop in traffic.  Considering the large amount of spammy backlinks you say existed, it does sound like a Penguin penalty is likely, but it can't hurt to check that Google Algorithm Change history.

                If the spammy backlinks are ALL gone now, then you're right... there's nothing you can do in regards to disavowing or manual removal.  If you do have a manual penalty that was given due to unnatural inbound links, you can submit a reconsideration request and let them know that you didn't build the backlinks and they all disappeared.  Let Google know you plan to continue to monitor your backlink profile and take immediate action against future negative backlinks that are found.

                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • Travis_Bailey
                  Travis_Bailey last edited by

                  Have you attempted to crawl the site? If not, I would give it a little Screaming Frog. If I knew the URL, I would have done it already. : )

                  Sometimes crawl problems look and feel like penalties. That upward trend in pages blocked by robots.txt before the fall is making me a little suspicious. Plus, if it is a problem with crawlability - that's easier to fix than a penalty.

                  0102345 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                  • 0102345
                    0102345 @Travis_Bailey last edited by

                    Thanks Travis but there are no crawl issues

                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • WhoWuddaThunk
                      WhoWuddaThunk last edited by

                      Have you looked into the Link Detox tool?  It supposedly helps you find the bad links that no one else monitors.

                      0102345 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                      • 0102345
                        0102345 @WhoWuddaThunk last edited by

                        I have all the bad links, they are all 404's now.

                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • JaneCopland
                          JaneCopland @0102345 last edited by

                          Hi Karen,

                          Breaking away from the hypothesis about the penalty here for a second, but I am wondering if the HTTPS / HTTP issue is part of the problem here.

                          Would you be able to PM me the website in question if you are not comfortable sharing it publicly here? I am not a Moz staff member (I used to be, 2006 - 09) but I help out with Q&A as an associate.

                          Cheers,

                          Jane

                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • DavidKonigsberg
                            DavidKonigsberg last edited by

                            Have you tried ahref? Majesticseo? cogintiveseo? to see your backlinks or just moz?

                            If you think you have been hit try using this https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/reconsideration and see if itshows up.

                            0102345 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                            • 0102345
                              0102345 @DavidKonigsberg last edited by

                              I used a software called WebMeUp...no other software shows the bad backlinks as they are all 404's now and no longer linking to the website. I have already submitted a reconsideration request.

                              DavidKonigsberg 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • DavidKonigsberg
                                DavidKonigsberg @0102345 last edited by

                                At this point you can only wait to see the results of the reconsideration request and hope they provide you examples if more clean up is needed.

                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • 1 / 1
                                • First post
                                  Last post
                                • Can 'follow' rather than 'nofollow' links be damaging partner's SEO
                                  LureCreative
                                  LureCreative
                                  0
                                  4
                                  112

                                • Why doesn't my website crawl by Google?
                                  LoganRay
                                  LoganRay
                                  0
                                  8
                                  82

                                • How necessary is it to disavow links in 2017? Doesn't Google's algorithm take care of determining what it will count or not?
                                  GastonRiera
                                  GastonRiera
                                  0
                                  4
                                  1.5k

                                • Silly Question still - Because I am paying high to google adwords is it possible google can't rank me high in organic?
                                  ChrisAshton
                                  ChrisAshton
                                  0
                                  4
                                  98

                                • My crawl can't find ANY product pages. The links to product pages aren't links, they're script. :(
                                  Joe.Robison
                                  Joe.Robison
                                  0
                                  8
                                  247

                                • What can you do when Google can't decide which of two pages is the better search result
                                  David-Kley
                                  David-Kley
                                  0
                                  3
                                  85

                                • How can Google index a page that it can't crawl completely?
                                  OlegKorneitchouk
                                  OlegKorneitchouk
                                  0
                                  4
                                  75

                                • Can links indexed by google "link:" be bad? or this is like a good example by google
                                  RyanKent
                                  RyanKent
                                  0
                                  3
                                  222

                                Get started with Moz Pro!

                                Unlock the power of advanced SEO tools and data-driven insights.

                                Start my free trial
                                Products
                                • Moz Pro
                                • Moz Local
                                • Moz API
                                • Moz Data
                                • STAT
                                • Product Updates
                                Moz Solutions
                                • SMB Solutions
                                • Agency Solutions
                                • Enterprise Solutions
                                • Digital Marketers
                                Free SEO Tools
                                • Domain Authority Checker
                                • Link Explorer
                                • Keyword Explorer
                                • Competitive Research
                                • Brand Authority Checker
                                • Local Citation Checker
                                • MozBar Extension
                                • MozCast
                                Resources
                                • Blog
                                • SEO Learning Center
                                • Help Hub
                                • Beginner's Guide to SEO
                                • How-to Guides
                                • Moz Academy
                                • API Docs
                                About Moz
                                • About
                                • Team
                                • Careers
                                • Contact
                                Why Moz
                                • Case Studies
                                • Testimonials
                                Get Involved
                                • Become an Affiliate
                                • MozCon
                                • Webinars
                                • Practical Marketer Series
                                • MozPod
                                Connect with us

                                Contact the Help team

                                Moz logo
                                © 2021 - 2026 SEOMoz, Inc., a Ziff Davis company. All rights reserved. Moz is a registered trademark of SEOMoz, Inc.
                                • Accessibility
                                • Terms of Use
                                • Privacy