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    Additional Details in Google Places - Should I bother?

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    • SSFCU
      SSFCU last edited by

      I see that the Additional Details I've been inputting in Google Places aren't publishing while everything else is. Why would they offer those fields if they aren't even displayed on the G+ page?

      Is it recommended to fill them out anyway?

      dvfWnHP

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      • Ron_McCabe
        Ron_McCabe last edited by

        Sarah,

        It is absolutely worth filling everything out.  Google is coming out with several different ways to display the information outside of your G+ account. Google is a source that other data aggregators get their information from.  This information propagates to these other directories. This creates additional inbound links and local visibility.  So yes it is very worth filling this information out.

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        • Ron_McCabe
          Ron_McCabe last edited by

          Sarah,

          I thought the graphic on this link would help you visualize what I am talking about:

          https://getlisted.org/static/resources/local-search-data-providers.html

          Ron

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          • MiriamEllis
            MiriamEllis last edited by

            Hi SEOSarah,

            You know, this is such a good question and is one I am positive must be occurring to many Local SEO and local business owners as we transition from the old Places dashboard to the new Places for Business Dashboard. As you've correctly observed, the old dashboard contains those additional details fields, but the new dashboard lacks them. So far as I know, nobody knows whether Google ever plans to re-introduce those fields into the new dashboard They may or may not, but these clearly have not been transferred over from the old dash to the new. A similar conundrum has arisen over the old custom categories and the new dash which allows for 10 categories but will only accept pre-set choices.

            If you are still seeing the old Places dashboard then, yes, I would take the time to fill out the additional details section if appropriate. Even if this isn't being displayed, I would assume that the data exists behind the scenes in Google's cluster of information about the business, so why not fill it out? It should only take a few seconds to do and can't hurt you.

            As to categories, though, if you are still seeing the old dash, I would recommend against choosing any custom categories as these are definitely not making the transition to the new dash. I would choose from Google's pre-set category taxonomy only.

            Hope this helps!

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            • MiriamEllis
              MiriamEllis @Ron_McCabe last edited by

              Hey Ron,

              That's a good resource you've linked to, but I think what SEOSarah is talking about is growing pains switching from the old dash to the new one. Some of the old fields no longer exist in the new dash and the data in them isn't being displayed on the new +Local pages, so I think this is causing some confusion for people.

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              • ReferralCandy
                ReferralCandy last edited by

                I'd fill them out anyway- Google has been rolling out all sorts of interesting things, and there's probably going to be some sort of benefit to it. I'd assume that it gives you some sort of advantage over those of your competitors that don't take the trouble to do it. It shouldn't take too long, anyway! 🙂

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                • SSFCU
                  SSFCU @Ron_McCabe last edited by

                  I love that graphic - it's printed out and hanging up in my cubicle. 🙂

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                  • SSFCU
                    SSFCU @MiriamEllis last edited by

                    Thanks Miriam! Yes, I've been going with pre-set categories from the get-go and this sounds like another reason to do it. We haven't transitioned over to the new dashboard yet.

                    In a way I'm lucky to still have a chance to do this because I'm on the ground level of my Local SEO campaign, so I can just do all this now and not have to come back to this when/if these fields are re-introduced.

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                    • SSFCU
                      SSFCU @ReferralCandy last edited by

                      Very good point.

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                      • SSFCU
                        SSFCU last edited by

                        Thanks everybody for the great answers. With 70 locations to update, this will take more time, but absolutely worth it.

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                        • MiriamEllis
                          MiriamEllis last edited by

                          Good luck with your project, Sarah!

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                          • LindaBuquet
                            LindaBuquet last edited by

                            Actually, the additional details section disappeared over 2 years ago - July 2011.

                            So I don't think that section going away had anything to do with the new dashboard. My assumption is that it was removed for space and because that section was spammed to death.

                            In my training for a long time I have said to still add certain types of specific data there, because for awhile Google said she still looked at that section. But I don't believe that's true any longer. Plus any new listings will get the new dash and the update to the new dash is starting to escalate, so soon everyone will have it. So I just don't think it's worth the energy to populate that section now. If you already have it won't hurt as long as you don't violate any unwritten rules down there.

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                            • SSFCU
                              SSFCU @LindaBuquet last edited by

                              Hi Linda. Yes, I found in my research that this has been the case for quite some time! Any theories on why they didn't take the option out of the dashboard? I had all this awesome non-spammy stuff to add and now I don't know what to do with it. Any suggestions?

                              Do you agree with Miriam's statement - and the sentiment of the others - that "Even if this isn't being displayed, I would assume that the data exists behind the scenes in Google's cluster of information about the business... " ?

                              I am curious to know what the official word from Google is on this. Is there a way for me to track that down? I saw there was a Google Places Help board, but it's now dead. Did it relocate and/or is it called something else now?

                              Thanks guys!

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                              • LindaBuquet
                                LindaBuquet last edited by

                                Hi Sarah,

                                Like I said for a long time I recommended adding that info as Google DID say they looked at it. However the new dash is right around corner, then that info will be gone. So if there, leave it. If not I would not bother adding. You could get the new dash next week.

                                PLUS stuff down there never did directly impact ranking. There are far more important areas you could spend time. Doing really smart local on-site SEO moves the needle the most these days.

                                Yes there is a new help forum that's been up for a couple years now.  I'm a Google Top Contributor there.

                                https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!categories/business But it's mainly a peer support forum and Google will not answer any questions about ranking and seldom comments on other questions.

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                                • LaBalaDePlata
                                  LaBalaDePlata @SSFCU last edited by

                                  Agree

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                                  • LaBalaDePlata
                                    LaBalaDePlata @LaBalaDePlata last edited by

                                    .

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                                    • SSFCU
                                      SSFCU @LindaBuquet last edited by

                                      That's a lot to think about, especially since I have 70 locations and can lose the old dashboard at any time. And the details are good information, stuff that I actually wanted our customers to know, not just SEOwise. Stuff I researched for weeks, but mercifully this wasn't the only impetus for that exercise, which ended up being a really good thing to do anyway.

                                      So if this was removed for being spammy, I'm assuming they couldn't police it? So perhaps it stays gone? Then again, it's Google. Who knows, right - same reason to consider inputting the info anyway, but considering the density of the information and that there are 70 pages, I guess I should wait for a bigger nudge before moving forward.

                                      I'd like to stay on top of this. Aside from checking the new dashboard to see if it ever pops up again, do you have any other recommendations? I imagine you and others would be blogging about any developments?

                                      Thanks again,
                                      Sarah

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                                      • LindaBuquet
                                        LindaBuquet last edited by

                                        Since you have 70 locations, are you doing bulk? If so, you may have a long time, because I don't think they've announced a new dash for bulk.

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                                        • SSFCU
                                          SSFCU @LindaBuquet last edited by

                                          I'm doing each manually.

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                                          • SSFCU
                                            SSFCU @LindaBuquet last edited by

                                            I'm intrigued by the on-site local SEO recommendation. It's been in my periphery, but I'm wondering how to pull it off with a financial institutional website with 70 locations. They are broken in down in regions. Would a viable solution be setting up regional pages? I don't know about our CMS capability, but it seems like it would be beneficial to treat is like an SM feed, posting our press releases local to those areas and including local announcements such as paper shred days.

                                            Thoughts? I'm going to carry this over to another Q&A.

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